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#21 OFFLINE   silvrsvt

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Posted 16 March 2017 - 07:00 AM

 

Skoda to the US is never going to work.

 

But what if Skoda vehicles were rebadged as Dodge or Chrysler? I'd give it a decent chance of at least selling as many units as FCA did with its own cars, which from VW's perspective maybe good enough to justify jumping in the water with Sergio Jack.

 

 

Skoda vehicles look nothing more then rebadged VWs, which don't sell that great in the US anyways because of that styling. 

 

I think its time to let the market lose a couple nameplates because Dodge and Chrysler really don't have anything to offer above and beyond what is already out there in the North American market. 


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#22 ONLINE   twintornados

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Posted 16 March 2017 - 07:28 PM

I thought Dodge was already replaced by Skoda.....


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Posted 19 March 2017 - 03:26 AM

So I wonder if PSA's  acquisition of Opel Vauxhall now makes it a bigger contender in Europe against VW group

and does that increase in PSA's size now urge VW to do another deal to maintain a superior margin...



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Posted 19 March 2017 - 05:14 AM

IMO, this is just what VW needs to truly be a player in North America.

They get Ram, Jeep and a dealer network. The cars are gone.
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Posted 19 March 2017 - 12:32 PM

I just got back from two weeks in Israel, it is essentially an extension of Europe, except that sedans are more popular than hatchbacks. VWs, Skodas, and SEATs were very popular, Fiat not so much. There were also a healthy number of PSA products, Fords, and Japanese and Korean cars. Apparently, GM has vacillated between Chevy and Opel in Israel, making it hard to gain a foothold.

If VW bought Fiat, it wouldn't create that much overlap. The Fiat brand is basically popular only in Italy and could be scaled down elsewhere or merged with SEAT. The former Chrysler part has no overlap with VW at all. Only Alfa Romeo and Maserati are overlaps.


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Posted 20 March 2017 - 03:23 PM



So I wonder if PSA's  acquisition of Opel Vauxhall now makes it a bigger contender in Europe against VW group

and does that increase in PSA's size now urge VW to do another deal to maintain a superior margin...

 

That's the whole reason PSA did this deal... to make sure it is #2 in Europe behind VW. PSA is a regional car company so the only way it survives is if it can be #1 or #2 in a big market. So buying Opel secures PSA's competitive position in Europe.

 

VW's going to whatever it does because of opportunities outside Europe. They are not that worried about PSA because the combined PSA-Opel still lags VW Group by a significant margin. Basically, what I'm saying is that VW buying FCA is not going to make a bean of difference in the competitive landscape in Europe. VW's evaluation of FCA will be what it can do in North and South America with FCA assets, and potentially what that means in China since VW Group already maxed out with 2 JVs. What would become GAIC Jeep is an open question if VW (or PSA for that matter) buys FCA.



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Posted 20 March 2017 - 07:08 PM

FCA's European division  was also profitable  last year too, that could sway the decision some.....



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Posted 22 March 2017 - 01:24 PM

Skoda, just what we need, another badge job brand of "cheap" cars. See Suzuki.










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