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#1 OFFLINE   BTV to SHV Transferee

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Posted 05 September 2006 - 10:50 PM

Click the link below for questions about SUB pay eligibility and how SUB pay is calculated.

A couple things to remember when getting SUB pay, since SUB pay comes from an independent fund overseen from an outside firm approved by Ford and the UAW, child support, alimony, court ordered payments, garnishments, elder care, TESPHE contributions and any FORD Motor Credit payroll deductions WILL NOT BE PAID OUT OR YOUR SUB CHECK! The SUB funds are from the outside source and are drawn upon from individual plants in a lump sum, paid to the employees out of the lump sum, therefor not allowing for your regular deductions you are used to making through payroll deductions. You must make those payments on your own!

Also, If you owe back Unemployment benefits, and some people do, you WILL NOT receive SUB pay untill all your unemployment benefits are paid in full or you have served the amount of weeks on unemployment that would compensate for the amount of money you owe them.
Example: You owe Unemployment money to your state of $2000. Your unemploment benefit is $400 per week. You file the weekly Unemployment claim, but the state keeps the money for 5 weeks (5 weeks X $400 per week = $2000 + penalty & interest if any) to pay the debt and you do not get sub pay those 5 weeks. You must get a check from the state Unemploment system to get SUB Pay

You can click the link to view or click the attachment link to download

Click here to view the SUB PAY Rules

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Edited by BTV to SHV Transferee, 05 September 2006 - 10:52 PM.

BTV to Shv Transferee is a collborative of 4 people. 1 Retired and 3 working. You never know just which one will respond!







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#2 OFFLINE   00ragtop

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Posted 05 September 2006 - 11:56 PM

You must get a check from the state Unemploment system to get SUB Pay
This statement is not true. You would still be entitled to your ordinary subpay. You just have to show payroll that they withheld your unemployment for backpay. This is no different then when you put a waiting week in and do not get a check from unemployment. You are stil entitled to your subpay.

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Posted 06 September 2006 - 02:09 AM

You must get a check from the state Unemploment system to get SUB Pay
This statement is not true. You would still be entitled to your ordinary subpay. You just have to show payroll that they withheld your unemployment for backpay. This is no different then when you put a waiting week in and do not get a check from unemployment. You are stil entitled to your subpay.

don,t listen to mickey hes got 04 time probaly not even getting sub pay mickey is this all you all day is read contracts and call warren/trahan offices all day get a life. see ya at the meeting

#4 OFFLINE   7kidz

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Posted 06 September 2006 - 02:52 AM

Click the link below for questions about SUB pay eligibility and how SUB pay is calculated.

A couple things to remember when getting SUB pay, since SUB pay comes from an independent fund overseen from an outside firm approved by Ford and the UAW, child support, alimony, court ordered payments, garnishments, elder care, TESPHE contributions and any FORD Motor Credit payroll deductions WILL NOT BE PAID OUT OR YOUR SUB CHECK! The SUB funds are from the outside source and are drawn upon from individual plants in a lump sum, paid to the employees out of the lump sum, therefor not allowing for your regular deductions you are used to making through payroll deductions. You must make those payments on your own!

Also, If you owe back Unemployment benefits, and some people do, you WILL NOT receive SUB pay untill all your unemployment benefits are paid in full or you have served the amount of weeks on unemployment that would compensate for the amount of money you owe them.
Example: You owe Unemployment money to your state of $2000. Your unemploment benefit is $400 per week. You file the weekly Unemployment claim, but the state keeps the money for 5 weeks (5 weeks X $400 per week = $2000 + penalty & interest if any) to pay the debt and you do not get sub pay those 5 weeks. You must get a check from the state Unemploment system to get SUB Paymy husbands subpay check had alimony and child support taken out

You can click the link to view or click the attachment link to download

Click here to view the SUB PAY Rules



husbands check had alimony and child support taken out--however mine did nott have tespe loan payments taken out

#5 OFFLINE   SLAP SPARKIE

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Posted 06 September 2006 - 05:03 AM

My sub has child support taken out because its court ordered. If your child support is paid to the state, it will be taken out of your unemployment check. At least its like that in missouri. If its court ordered, the amount wont change but if its paid to the state it should go down because its based on your wages.

#6 OFFLINE   BTV to SHV Transferee

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Posted 06 September 2006 - 07:20 AM

OK, I will admit, the child support and alimony must vary from state to state. I do know that child support for Ohio comes directly out of Unemployment from the state and not from SUB pay. Ford Motor Credit doesnt come out of SUB either, nor does TESPHE or elder care.

Now we are educating ourselves and the differences from state to state about what comes out and what has to be paid on your own.

What was posted is what we are hearing from those who are on layoff from SHV & BTV and some have had their SUB witheld because they owed unemployment a substantial amount. They wasnt back paid by SUB because they never received actual cash dollars from unemployment. Because of the automatic filing with the state of Ohio, as stated in the rules, the persons were paid $0.00 therefor not getting SUB because they were back paying and penalized for their overpayment from Unemployment. SUB does payout the full 95% for your first waiting week.
BTV to Shv Transferee is a collborative of 4 people. 1 Retired and 3 working. You never know just which one will respond!

#7 OFFLINE   mrcvtman

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Posted 06 September 2006 - 10:33 AM

Is it just me or does everyone else see the trend with this shv to btv transferee guy (mickey)? Everything that he says sounds believable at first glance but then you check it out and its nothing but b.s. :blah:

ATTENTION: pls don't cut and paste contract paragraphs onto forums and try to summarize what they actually mean if your don't have a clue :doh:

Edited by mrcvtman, 06 September 2006 - 10:35 AM.


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Posted 06 September 2006 - 11:26 AM

ahh whats the point

Edited by expiredthreat, 06 September 2006 - 11:34 AM.