Krotz31 Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 Would like to see better led light options on all trim levels, seems like one of the few things ford truck is behind the competition with Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-150 Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 Yes. F150 owners are being deprived of joined the obnoxious, glaring headlight club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 Would like to see better led light options on all trim levels, seems like one of the few things ford truck is behind the competition with What competition has better LED lights than F150? I'm pretty sure the LED lights on the F150 and Super Duty are better than any lights available from the competition. Yes. F150 owners are being deprived of joined the obnoxious, glaring headlight club. The F150 (and Super Duty as well) has FANTASTIC LED headlights. Not the aftermarket crap that is full of glare and likely illegal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krotz31 Posted February 17, 2017 Author Share Posted February 17, 2017 What competition has better LED lights than F150? I'm pretty sure the LED lights on the F150 and Super Duty are better than any lights available from the competition. The F150 (and Super Duty as well) has FANTASTIC LED headlights. Not the aftermarket crap that is full of glare and likely illegal. I agree, that's one of the reasons why I bumped up to the laraiat, for the OEM LED's, I would just like to see them available on the lower trims . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 I agree, that's one of the reasons why I bumped up to the laraiat, for the OEM LED's, I would just like to see them available on the lower trims . I agree with you on offering them on lower trims. I would have loved to have gotten the LEDs on a base Lariat F250, but I had to spring for the Ultimate package before I could even give Ford $1k for the LEDs. Ridiculous, but it appears Ford knows what they are doing in driving transaction prices up. I figured if I was getting the Ultimate package, what's another $700 to add adaptive cruise too? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rperez817 Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 What competition has better LED lights than F150? I'm pretty sure the LED lights on the F150 and Super Duty are better than any lights available from the competition. IIHS tested headlamp performance on new pickup trucks last fall. Four models had LED headlamps: Ford F-150, Chevrolet Silverado, GMC Sierra, and Honda Ridgeline. Honda Ridgeline and GMC Sierra LED headlamps rated much higher than F-150 LED headlamps. Chevrolet Silverado LED headlamps were actually best among all trucks tested in terms of visibility ahead for its driver, but they produce too much glare. The glare problem is why IIHS rated Silverado LED headlamps poor. F-150 LED headlamps fail to provide adequate visibility ahead for its driver on straightaway and on curves, and also produce excessive glare for other motorists. Thus among pickup trucks that offer LED headlamps, F-150 is by far the worst. Link from IIHS, http://www.iihs.org/iihs/news/desktopnews/most-pickup-trucks-have-poor-headlights-iihs-tests-show Low beam performance results for specific truck models with LED headlamps - best performing setup: 2016-2017 Ford F-150 (overall rating POOR): "On the straightaway, visibility was inadequate on both sides of the road. On curves, visibility was inadequate in all 4 tests. The low beams created excessive glare. High-beam assist compensates for some limitations of this vehicle's low beams on the straightaway and all 4 curves." 2017 Honda Ridgeline (overall rating GOOD): "On the straightaway, visibility was good on the right side of the road and fair on the left side. On curves, visibility was good on the gradual right curve, fair on the sharp right and sharp left curves, and inadequate on the gradual left curve.The low beams never exceeded glare limits. High-beam assist compensates for some limitations of this vehicle's low beams on the straightaway, on both left curves and on both right curves." 2016-2017 GMC Sierra (overall rating ACCEPTABLE): "On the straightaway, visibility was fair on the left side of the road and inadequate on the right side. On curves, visibility was good on the sharp left and both right curves and inadequate on the gradual left curve. The low beams never exceeded glare limits. High-beam assist compensates for some limitations of this vehicle's low beams on the straightaway, on the gradual left curve and on the gradual right curve." 2016-2017 Chevrolet Silverado (overall rating POOR): "On the straightaway, visibility was good on both sides of the road. On curves, visibility was good in all 4 tests. The low beams created excessive glare. High-beam assist compensates for some limitations of this vehicle's low beams on both left curves." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 I didn't realize the GM fullsize twins came with LEDs. Is that correct? I thought they just had LED DRLs and projector headlamps. I will admit that I don't follow them that closely though. And I don't consider the Ridgeline a competitor, but duly noted. I think it's much easier to have good headlights on a lower vehicle due to the fewer issues with the headlights shining in other drivers' eyes. You can make them brighter without having the consequences due to the lights being so high. I think the lights are better on our '10 Milan then they were on my '08 F250. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 Headlights are tested as received from the dealer. Although many headlight problems could be resolved by adjusting the aim of the lamps, IIHS doesn't change headlight aim. Ford has a habit of aiming their headlamps too low from the factory. I almost always have to adjust them higher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonj80 Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 I didn't realize the GM fullsize twins came with LEDs. Is that correct? I thought they just had LED DRLs and projector headlamps. I will admit that I don't follow them that closely though. And I don't consider the Ridgeline a competitor, but duly noted. I think it's much easier to have good headlights on a lower vehicle due to the fewer issues with the headlights shining in other drivers' eyes. You can make them brighter without having the consequences due to the lights being so high. I think the lights are better on our '10 Milan then they were on my '08 F250. GM uses Xenon Projectors on lower trim, LED projectors on Higher trims. All standard. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dlcorbett Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 I agree, and that this should also be the case for the expy as well. The led option should be std across the line. Ford makes you pay for the whole pkg where as the competitors for f series trucks and expy has the led option pkgs std. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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