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'19 Ranger Spied Testing


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#141 OFFLINE   SoonerLS

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Posted 02 March 2017 - 02:59 PM

didint they learn from the Jag days with rivets and adhesive ( bonded on a molecular level if I recall correctly )

I'm sure they learned a lot from Jag, but it looks like Jag's peak sales in the US since '02 was less than 62,000 units in '02.

 

Ford sold nearly 66,000 F-Series trucks in February alone.

 

As I recall, a lot of the problem was that it is much slower to form aluminum body panels than it is to form steel body panels, and increasing the speed of productions of the panels was one of Ford's advances for the F150. It doesn't matter if you know how to tie aluminum panels to the truck if you can't do it fast enough to keep the assembly line rolling.


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Posted 02 March 2017 - 08:08 PM

Ford started working on aluminum vehicles long ago (they worked with Alcoa to build a test fleet of aluminum SHOs (or maybe they were SHO-powered Sables) back in the early '90s, and my Lincoln was an aluminum-intensive vehicle for its day), but nobody had done it in the volume or at the speed required to support the F150. Back in '13 or so, Ford made a big deal about the revolutionary new processes and toolings they'd developed to meet the F150's production rate.


The SHO-powered, aluminum Sable concept was found in a Detroit salvage yard about 7 years ago, IIRC.

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Posted 02 March 2017 - 10:11 PM

The SHO-powered, aluminum Sable concept was found in a Detroit salvage yard about 7 years ago, IIRC.

I think there were more than one of them. I know someone who snapped a pic of one in a fenced lot in Canada, maybe in Toronto, around that time--it wasn't long before the return of the SHO.


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Posted 04 March 2017 - 11:02 AM

My bet is the Ranger will pirate sales from the f-150...and it will be based on one parameter.....price.....and its probably the major reason the ranger has made it to market....

 

Also, if buyers can expect a four door pickup with all its utility for the same price as a mid sized sedan (which are also getting too expensive), then it will likely steal sales from that as well.

 

Now combining Focus and Fusion in the same plant seems more logical.


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Posted 04 March 2017 - 04:36 PM

Just to confirm this is a Lefty (LHD)

 

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Closer Look at Front Clip

 

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Gap in Cabin and Rear Tray

 

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Looks Like 4-Wheel Disc Brakes

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Posted 04 March 2017 - 05:02 PM

So we are getting an Edge-like grill on the US Ranger? I realize Ford would be most profitable to share panels with the ROW Ranger, but I think the current ROW Ranger looks awkward. This is just my opinion, styling is subjective.
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Posted 05 March 2017 - 01:45 AM

This is obviously a different truck from all the other "mules" that we have seen. This a supercab with the longer bed and the others were crewcabs. Yet it also has the same Everest grille looking frontend styling. That is a bit concerning. However, the rear discs are encouraging.

 

Anyone know why the tailpipes on mules always seem to have a flared tip? It almost looks like they used a piece of downpipe that would normally be connected to a manifold just so they could use the bend without actually having to make a bent pipe.


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Posted 05 March 2017 - 02:51 AM

The production Ranger exhaust is tucked up underneath, you don't see it like that mule.......

 

And I think that this mule is still ROW truck sheet metal (attribute prototype), not Nth American specific styling...

 

and four wheel disk brakes should gladden the enthusiast's hearts, that shows Ford is adding more than

just bits of plastic and the nearest gasoline engine...feeling very good about the possibility of a  2.7 EB,

that sort of engine has similar power and torque as the old 5.4 3V - it should go  like stink in Ranger.


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Posted 05 March 2017 - 08:15 AM

If they can offer the 2.7 in vehicles like the Edge and Fusion which should be considerably lighter than a 4x4 Ranger....plus based on what the competition currently offers in their midsizers it would give them a definite performance advantage. With that engine the diesel would be a moot point except for those who absolutely want a diesel.

 

Go bigly (as Trump would say) or go home. ;)

 

The only question in my mind would be Ford's capacity to supply the 2.7EB across so many platforms. 


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Posted 05 March 2017 - 10:16 AM

And I think that this mule is still ROW truck sheet metal (attribute prototype), not Nth American specific styling...

That's my guess. I'm thinking those pictures were taken in Australia--if they were running in the US, I'd think they'd have Michigan M plates instead of Victoria plates and wouldn't have the "Left Hand Drive" sticker on the tailgate. Also, it looks like they were taken from a RHD vehicle (look in the mirror in the 3rd pic).


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Posted 05 March 2017 - 10:24 AM

Anyone know why the tailpipes on mules always seem to have a flared tip? It almost looks like they used a piece of downpipe that would normally be connected to a manifold just so they could use the bend without actually having to make a bent pipe.


Something to do with emissions data logging.

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Posted 05 March 2017 - 10:27 AM

and four wheel disk brakes should gladden the enthusiast's hearts, that shows Ford is adding more than

just bits of plastic and the nearest gasoline engine...

I would expect four-wheel discs just from a logistics perspective--I don't think Ford offers drums on any of its trucks these days (with the possible exception of the bigger Super Duties). Does it offer them on any light truck or passenger car it sells in the US? (ETA: The Fiesta S still has rear drums. How quaint...)


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Posted 05 March 2017 - 02:12 PM

Didn't Ford say recently that they would have twelve vehicles under the Ford Performance banner by 2020? Perhaps the Ranger and Bronco will make that list. The 2.7EB would go a long way towards that goal.


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Posted 05 March 2017 - 02:39 PM

Sorry, I don't think I've kept up with advances in technology ROW trucks like Ranger and Hilux used to have rear  drum brakes

but in recent years Ranger has Dynamic stability control, traction control and hill descent technology.  think these require

additional sensors on rear drive, normally incorporated with tone sensors for ABS braking and typically part of a

four whel disc brake set up....amazing how technology keeps evolving and rolled out.:)



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Posted 05 March 2017 - 03:04 PM

From Ford Europe Technical Specifications sheet - Brakes Front – ventilated discs, 302 x 32 mm

Rear – drums, 270 x 55 mm (4x2); 295 x 55 mm (4x4)

Modulation: Standard: Electronic Stability Control (ESC), Traction Control System (TCS), Electronic Brake Assist.

ESC system features: Hill Descent Control (HDC), Hill Start Assist (HSA), Trailer Sway Control (TSC), Load Adaptive Control (LAC), Emergency Brake Assist (EBA), Emergency Brake Light (EBL), RollOver Mitigation (ROM)


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Posted 06 March 2017 - 06:45 AM

From Ford Europe Technical Specifications sheet - Brakes Front – ventilated discs, 302 x 32 mm

Rear – drums, 270 x 55 mm (4x2); 295 x 55 mm (4x4)

Modulation: Standard: Electronic Stability Control (ESC), Traction Control System (TCS), Electronic Brake Assist.

ESC system features: Hill Descent Control (HDC), Hill Start Assist (HSA), Trailer Sway Control (TSC), Load Adaptive Control (LAC), Emergency Brake Assist (EBA), Emergency Brake Light (EBL), RollOver Mitigation (ROM)

Yes, they were planning to go to four wheel disc but the change was held over until the next "batch" of changes...










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