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GM January '17 sales down 3.8%


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#61 ONLINE   fordtech1

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Posted 07 February 2017 - 09:08 AM

 
Yes they do which leads us to this phrase:
 
 
Something Ford doesn't have to say.


You know the crap part is GM made out on that deal. Ford, although got some money, didn't get debt erased.
In the USA good ethics only pay off so long. I don't know if BK they wouldn't have come out better. Lessen debt and able to spend on new stuff like GM.

FYI I'm not in favor of BK. But it sure hasn't hurt GM. Seems like that wound lasted a couple years.







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#62 ONLINE   sullynd

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Posted 07 February 2017 - 09:13 AM

Something Ford doesn't have to say.


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#63 OFFLINE   Anbevo

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Posted 07 February 2017 - 09:18 AM

No doubt! GM was given a new debt-free company with all of its resources and capital and $60B cash in "start up money", not to mention sweetheart tax deals.  Not hard to see why they are out-performing Ford now..... However, what comes around goes around - GM is still not structured for long-term financial sustainability in my opinion.  



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Posted 07 February 2017 - 10:03 AM

 GM is still not structured for long-term financial sustainability in my opinion.  

 

Bingo!  That's the point of all these discussions about how much money they're wasting and investing in the wrong vehicles.   If the market tanks again and big trucks and suvs take a dive so will their profits.   Ford is in a much better position financially.

 

Also - GM wasn't outperforming Ford until very recently.   And I predict Ford will have a better 1Q17 than GM because GM overbuilt the last half of 2016 instead of cutting back like Ford did.



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Posted 07 February 2017 - 08:27 PM

GM reminds me of the old Soviet Union: technically capable but operationally and structurally deficient; full of braggadocio but without any sound strategic or business sense. ... To defeat them you just force them to spend themselves into bankruptcy!


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Posted 08 February 2017 - 12:01 PM

Buick and GMC are starting to overlap each other now. At first it was Buick cars, GMC trucks, now with success of Encore, Buick will get more CUV's. But then only difference between B & G is grille and name. Kind of like the J bodies in the 80's.



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Posted 08 February 2017 - 01:23 PM

Buick cars are slowly fading. The brand is relying on crossovers to stay in business, but is there really any reason to buy a Buick crossover instead of the GMC equivalent sitting in the same showroom?



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Posted 08 February 2017 - 01:40 PM

is there really any reason to buy a Buick crossover instead of the GMC equivalent sitting in the same showroom?

 

Should be a bit cheaper - less warranty, etc.   Or if you like round wheel wells.



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Posted 09 February 2017 - 03:53 AM

Buick cars are slowly fading. The brand is relying on crossovers to stay in business, but is there really any reason to buy a Buick crossover instead of the GMC equivalent sitting in the same showroom?

Or GM could copy BMW and turn its sedans into jacked up Utilities.

 

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Looks like something on steroids with those big boots.:)



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Posted 09 February 2017 - 09:25 AM

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Posted 09 February 2017 - 04:10 PM

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Please stop posting this, lol.
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