ice-capades Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 Here's the latest information available for the 2017/2018 Expedition production schedule. 03/03/2017 - 2017MY Fleet Final Order Due Date 03/30/2017 - 2017MY Last Day to Spec Change 07/02/2017 - 2017MY Job Last Date 06/12/2017 - 2018MY Order Bank Open Date 07/20/2017 - 2018MY Scheduling Begins 09/25/2017 - 2018MY Job #1 Date Note: The changeover timetable for the 2017/2018MY Lincoln Navigator has not yet been released. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HofstraJet Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 Very helpful. Thank you. My lease ends late November so I need to order as soon as I can. Depending on sound system, may get the Navigator this time as they seem to be getting the higher end Harman system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caplanm Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 Here's the latest information available for the 2017/2018 Expedition production schedule. 03/03/2017 - 2017MY Fleet Final Order Due Date 03/30/2017 - 2017MY Last Day to Spec Change 07/02/2017 - 2017MY Job Last Date 06/12/2017 - 2018MY Order Bank Open Date 07/20/2017 - 2018MY Scheduling Begins 09/25/2017 - 2018MY Job #1 Date Note: The changeover timetable for the 2017/2018MY Lincoln Navigator has not yet been released. As a dealer, have you seen any information on the 2018, in terms of spec's, content, or pictures? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BORG Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 (edited) The next-generation Navigator is MY 2019 according to what the Dealers are being told. Edited January 14, 2017 by BORG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbone Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 The next-generation Navigator is MY 2019 according to what the Dealers are being told. Which can go on sale as early as January 2018, correct? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BORG Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 (edited) Which can go on sale as early as January 2018, correct? Correct. Like the MKX the Navigator may go on an extended production hiatus which they'll soften by increasing inventory by batch producing 2018s. Although it's possible both are arriving much later than originally estimated. I've been told not to expect Navigator to be available at all this year which is when my lease is up, ah well. The new Navigator is really sharp, I'm really excited for you guys to see it. The black label wheels alone are stunning. And yeah, it's going to be monstrously expensive if you want to go all out but I think it murders the Escalade. Edited January 15, 2017 by BORG 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HofstraJet Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 Correct. Like the MKX the Navigator may go on an extended production hiatus which they'll soften by increasing inventory by batch producing 2018s. Although it's possible both are arriving much later than originally estimated. I've been told not to expect Navigator to be available at all this year which is when my lease is up, ah well. The new Navigator is really sharp, I'm really excited for you guys to see it. The black label wheels alone are stunning. And yeah, it's going to be monstrously expensive if you want to go all out but I think it murders the Escalade. Thanks. Maybe I can just finance the residual on my 15 Expy and wait for the Nav. Sounds like it may be worth the wait. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ice-capades Posted January 15, 2017 Author Share Posted January 15, 2017 As a dealer, have you seen any information on the 2018, in terms of spec's, content, or pictures? There won't be any specifications available until the 2018 Expedition Order Guide is released to dealers which is usually on or about the date that the USOB (Unscheduled Order Bank) opens. I will upload the order guide as soon as it's available! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dlcorbett Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 have you seen the expy as well of no any i formation regarding the expy and features. how about the navi besides that it will look good lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbone Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 Correct. Like the MKX the Navigator may go on an extended production hiatus which they'll soften by increasing inventory by batch producing 2018s. Although it's possible both are arriving much later than originally estimated. I've been told not to expect Navigator to be available at all this year which is when my lease is up, ah well. The new Navigator is really sharp, I'm really excited for you guys to see it. The black label wheels alone are stunning. And yeah, it's going to be monstrously expensive if you want to go all out but I think it murders the Escalade. The GM triplets are very solid offerings, so if this proves true, very exciting times are ahead for Ford full size SUVS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbone Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 Thanks. Maybe I can just finance the residual on my 15 Expy and wait for the Nav. Sounds like it may be worth the wait. It has been a while since I have leased anything, but I thought you could work it out so you could extend your lease beyond the original lease term as needed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbone Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 (edited) I was just contemplating the affects of the new Expy/Nav on the resale value of the old ones. Do the old models' values go down due to the influx of old models traded on new models, the simple supply and demand model, or do the old models' values stabilize and perhaps improve due to Expy/Nav becoming acceptable nameplates again in the the well heeled areas, where most of these will be sold? The neighbor has a new Expy/Nav, but I can't afford a new one, so I'll settle for the old model. Edited January 15, 2017 by tbone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 The old ones will probably stay the same or go up a little because the new one will raise transaction prices a good bit including less incentives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 It has been a while since I have leased anything, but I thought you could work it out so you could extend your lease beyond the original lease term as needed? They will extend it for a few months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddysystem Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 Do we have any confirmation about wheelbase options for the Expy and Navi? There was some debate a while ago whether there would be a standard and EL length on these. Some suggested that the Navi might only have a standard length but with more rear leg room. 2 wheelbases? three? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dlcorbett Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 good question, i have seen both spied versions of the navi bit only the reg version of the expy, will there be 2 versions of both? also, will there be more interior room in both now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Morton Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 FORDS ALUMINUM BODY SECRET: I hope 2018 Aluminum Body Corrosion problem is fixed. Our 2015 Ford Expedition with 20,000 miles in California has Aluminum Corrosion on the front hood and rear hatch door. Ford has known about this problem since the year 2000 and has done nothing about it, documented in Technical Service Bulletin TSB 16-0028. Dealerships are aware, but do not disclose the factory defect prior to sale, which is Fraud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HofstraJet Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 FORDS ALUMINUM BODY SECRET: I hope 2018 Aluminum Body Corrosion problem is fixed. Our 2015 Ford Expedition with 20,000 miles in California has Aluminum Corrosion on the front hood and rear hatch door. Ford has known about this problem since the year 2000 and has done nothing about it, documented in Technical Service Bulletin TSB 16-0028. Dealerships are aware, but do not disclose the factory defect prior to sale, which is Fraud. Here's a link to the TSB: http://www.f150forum.com/attachments/f118/418162d1456767151-2015-ford-f-150-tsb-listing-tsb16-0028.pdf Surprising that they continue to have the issue and keep updating the TSB to add in the current year. That said, I have a 15 Expy Limited with 45K miles in SE Florida and have no such issues. But mine is garaged at home and office if that matters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordtech1 Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 I understand it being a concern. However, not all do it. So do and some don't. It's covered under warranty and will be repaired. What's the issue? It's no different than a part going bad and needing replacement. The dealer didn't sell a vehicle with a defect off the lot. It happened over a short period of time. That's what a warranty is for. Defects in manufacturing or parts. On the flip side, better prep should be done during assembly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 I understand it being a concern. However, not all do it. So do and some don't. It's covered under warranty and will be repaired. What's the issue? It's no different than a part going bad and needing replacement. The dealer didn't sell a vehicle with a defect off the lot. It happened over a short period of time. That's what a warranty is for. Defects in manufacturing or parts. On the flip side, better prep should be done during assembly. BUT IT HAPPENED TO ME OMG ITS FRAUD IM NEVER BUYING ANOTHER FORD AGAIN!!!11111 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dlcorbett Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 but this has been a known issue for about a decade with the sec gen expy, why dod you buy one knowing ut would become a problem? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theoldwizard Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 (edited) It's covered under warranty and will be repaired. It is NOT covered under warranty ! Some dealers may some how get it covered, but I know way too many Navigator/Expedition owners with bubbling/pealing paint ! The warranty says only rust/oxidation "perforation" is covered. Edited March 10, 2017 by theoldwizard 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theoldwizard Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 FORDS ALUMINUM BODY SECRET: I hope 2018 Aluminum Body Corrosion problem is fixed. It is reasonable to assume that the new Navigator/Expedition will use the same process as the aluminum body F150. I have not heard of any issues with those vehicles so I guessing the issue has been solved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blwnsmoke Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 It is NOT covered under warranty ! Some dealers may some how get it covered, but I know way too many Navigator/Expedition owners with bubbling/pealing paint ! The warranty says only rust/oxidation "perforation" is covered. It IS covered under warranty... it is covered under the 3yr/36k bumper to bumper. The "perforation" is in regards to the rust warranty and yes, it is NOT covered under this one. If you find it happening within the 3/36, Ford will either repaint or replace/repaint at their discretion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chucky2 Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 But what happens at 6 yrs or 70k when your Built Ford Tough, Quality Is Job 1, $45k+ SUV that you planned on keeping for 10, 15, 20 years has its paint bubbling off already and Ford won't warranty it? For brand agnostic people who this happens to, how does Ford hope to a.) not have the bad press spread to other potential buyers and b.) retain these customers for future purchase potential? I'm a Ford person, but if Ford treated my investment in their product like many of these horror stories one reads, there is absolutely no way I'd reward them with future $. The year is 2017. Having the paint bubble off your expensive vehicle a short few years/miles later is not in any way reasonable. It should be met with horror at the stealership with profuse apologies and warranted by Ford for something much more sane like 120k mi, regardless of years. Paint bubbling off...lol...it's absurd... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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