rmc523 Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 http://www.autoblog.com/2017/01/09/2018-toyota-camry-2017-detroit-auto-show/ The all-new 2018 Camry comes with an equally all-new lineup of powertrains. The vast majority of those you'll see lining the Safeway parking lot will come with a new 2.5-liter naturally aspirated four-cylinder "Dynamic Force Engine." Rather than going the small-displacement turbocharged route, Toyota adopted a longer stroke and higher compression ratio, direct injection, a variable cooling system, and the latest iteration of the brand's Variable Valve-Timing-intelligent Electric (VVT-iE) system. Output specs weren't released, but Toyota promises better power and torque (the current 2.5-liter produces 178 horsepower and 170 pound-feet of torque) along with best-in-class fuel economy. The current leaders in the clubhouse manage 31 mpg combined.Also new is the 3.5-liter V6, presumably shared with the 2017 Toyota Highlander and Sienna. Both four- and six-cylinder engine options are paired to a new eight-speed automatic transmission. The Camry Hybrid makes its return also featuring the new 2.5-liter four-cylinder along with a revised continuously variable transmission that features a new Sport mode capable of simulating six gears. Selecting Sport mode also increases electric boost and thus acceleration.One key change to the Hybrid is that its battery pack was relocated from the trunk to underneath the rear seat. This should theoretically improve trunk space and improve driving dynamics by relocating the batteries' ample weight toward the vehicle's center of gravity. Toyota anticipates the Camry will achieve "Prius-like city/highway" fuel economy, which would put it in the ballpark of 54 mpg city and 50 mpg highway More at the link above. --- So like Lexus, Toyota design/styling keeps getting more and more bizarre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbone Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 (edited) Nothing too earth shattering here, but I have to say for me, that it is an improvement over the outgoing model. Certainly not as offensive as the Lexus models. The 10" HUD sounded interesting though. Edited January 9, 2017 by tbone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 Agree it's an improvement. All-New? Only in appearance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 Agree it's an improvement. All-New? Only in appearance. I thought this one finally used a new platform? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 Finally, a spiritual successor to the '58 Olds. They can put all the decorations on it they want, it's still a car for sedate suburbanites. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 I thought this one finally used a new platform? If by new platform you mean a new alphanumeric nametag then sure..... Actually I'm not sure but I would be surprised if this was really a brand new platform. I guess we'll know when we see the muffler from behind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 It does appear they changed the wheelbase, roof line and hip points along with a new suspension so maybe this is really a new platform. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 Will the rear bumper still be easily dented? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 The green house styling reminds me of a Kia...its an improvement over the current car though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-150 Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 That's a fancy refrigerator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atomcat68 Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 Yes, it is a new platform. They are going to use a "scalable archetecture" like VW. This new Camry is based off the new Prius platform. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exploder48 Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 As the saying goes, you can put lipstick on a pig but it's still a pig. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grbeck Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 (edited) I agree with RichardJensen. That lower grille opening on the gray car moves the design into 1958 Oldsmobile territory. Edited January 9, 2017 by grbeck 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trailhiker Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 Chunky profile....Quirky interior layout...Cheesy front and rear. I honestly don't like it at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 I agree with RichardJensen. That lower grille opening on the gray car moves the design into 1958 Oldsmobile territory. It's like management said, "Make it more dynamic!" without realizing that their designers forgot how to do that a long, long time ago. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 It's like management said, "Make it more dynamic!" without realizing that their designers forgot how to do that a long, long time ago. That implies they've ever known how to do that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 That implies they've ever known how to do that I liked the 80s Celica/Supra That's a really good design, IMO. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 But it's been 20+ years since there was a Toyota badged anything worth looking twice at (RX300 was a revolutionary vehicle, IMO, but that's a Lexus not a Toyota) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sullynd Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 The first Lexus SC is still one of my favorite vehicles. My Dad had an SC300 (I6) and it was a great car. Shared its platform with the Supra (Which was also a sweet design). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atomcat68 Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 I like But it's been 20+ years since there was a Toyota badged anything worth looking twice at (RX300 was a revolutionary vehicle, IMO, but that's a Lexus not a Toyota) the Toyota 86/former Scion frs(?) whateverthef*** and I thought the last MR2 was damn sexy. At least this Camry at least has a personality, but unfortunately it is a crazy lady with six cats who believes in astrology but not shaving her mustache personality. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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