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Hell Freezes Over: 2nd Ave Subway to Open Jan 1st

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#1 OFFLINE   Anthony


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Posted 19 December 2016 - 07:34 PM




After a lot of waiting and speculation, the long awaited, long delayed Second Avenue Subway will be ready to roll by the end of the year. There will be a ceremonial first ride on December 31, while full service will open to the public at noon on January 1, 2017.


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#2 OFFLINE   twintornados


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Posted 19 December 2016 - 09:33 PM

..and here I thought you were talkin' $5 dollar foot longs....

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#3 OFFLINE   bolt in blue

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Posted 21 December 2016 - 11:07 AM

Only phase 1 is opening. When the current work started, phase 1 was supposed to open in 2013. Phases 2 and 3 were already supposed to be under construction. They're now talking about a 2020 start to construction - no funds identified.


The real story to me is the cost. It's approaching $1 billion per mile. The excuse is always that New York is an old and complicated city with strong labor protections, but London and Paris are older with similar complications and even stronger labor protections, yet they build for under $100 million per mile and get the construction done faster. I don't know why the costs are so out of control, but it seems likely that it will take at least another 70 years to really finish the Second Avenue Subway unless we can get the costs under control. And we wonder why our infrastructure is falling apart, yet we spend more on infrastructure than other first world countries - it isn't just a transit or NYC problem!

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