blksn8k2 Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 I think it's only Mustangs that have had issues with dropping valves, I haven't heard of any F-150 owners saying they had the issue. Ford is aware of it and trying to come up with a cause and solution AFAIK. Coyote or EB? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 (edited) Coyote or EB? Coyote, sorry. And it's only the 2018s Edited September 18, 2018 by fuzzymoomoo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sevensecondsuv Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 Ah, must have been something that changed when they upped power to 460 hp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 The 12th Gen F-150 guys with the 6.2 absolutely love that mill. I don't recall the numbers exactly, but it's significantly detuned in the SuperDuties, presumably for the different duty cycles, so it wouldn't be entirely surprising if it didn't have as good of a reputation. Back then it was basically the same tune as in F150 but different rating for Super Duty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snooter Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 The 6.0 is a good engine..it was lightweight and had a massive turbo...it will run circles around most other diesel engines....what killed it was it could not survive being modded without upgrades...overall a good engine though..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stray Kat Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 I agree with this except for the undersized valve lifters (sourced from GM I think) and only 4 head bolts around each cylinder. Could’ve been legendary but for those two items. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7Mary3 Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 I saw an awful lot of 6.0L Powerstrokes fail that had no modifications whatsoever. Mods made a bad situation worse, no question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerLS Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 Back then it was basically the same tune as in F150 but different rating for Super Duty. It had less torque and power, presumably trading the high end for a flatter torque curve and more torque lower in the revs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 (edited) It had less torque and power, presumably trading the high end for a flatter torque curve and more torque lower in the revs. Same engine power and torque but rated differently in Super Duty versus F150 that's why the figures appear to be lower in the Super Dutys.(for sustained power delivery). Edited September 19, 2018 by jpd80 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blksn8k2 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 Ah, must have been something that changed when they upped power to 460 hp. Redline increased by 500 to 7500 rpm. The heads and cams are also new along with larger valves and the TiVCT was modified on the exhaust side. The compression ratio was bumped from 11:1 to 12:1. https://www.fordnxt.com/news/a-peek-inside-the-2018-mustangs-gen-3-coyote-engine/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSchicago Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 Back then it was basically the same tune as in F150 but different rating for Super Duty. Super Duty 6.2 was rated at a ridiculously low RPM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve557 Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 (edited) Please let this motor shown up in 250-350 applications. Was going to order a 19 to replace my 17 350 but holding out for this motor and hoping I can actually get it. Edited September 22, 2018 by Steve557 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 Super Duty 6.2 was rated at a ridiculously low RPM. The rating is based on sustained heavy loading.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-150 Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 Please let this motor shown up in 250-350 applications. Was going to order a 19 to replace my 17 350 but holding out for this motor and hoping I can actually get it. It's a little overkill for a 250 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 It's a little overkill for a 250 Not near as much overkill as the 6.7L PowerStroke though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 Not near as much overkill as the 6.7L PowerStroke though... . It'll be cheaper than the Power Stroke... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 . It'll be cheaper than the Power Stroke... Likely by 7-8k. Unless they ditch the 6.2, in which case the 7.3 will be 9k cheaper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sevensecondsuv Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 (edited) It'll be interesting to see how they position the new motor. I can't believe they're going to just hand it out as the base engine in every fleet special F-250 sold. But then that brings up the question of what else could the base engine be? That one document somebody posted in the other thread says 6.2L is going away..... I'm going to cry if the new 7.3 is limited to strictly replacing the current V10 applications. Edited September 22, 2018 by Sevensecondsuv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 (edited) And that's the thing, the 7.3 was always planned as a Medum Duty engine that replaces the 6.8 V10. So I'd be expecting that it will be an option on F350 and up like the 6.8 V10 once was.. Look at the drop off in gasoline sales F250....50% F350....25% F450...NA F550..NA F650...majority of sales F750...small sales - exclusively diesel? Maybe Ford sees a lot more gasoline sales in F350 to F650 Edited September 22, 2018 by jpd80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sevensecondsuv Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 6.8L was an option from '99-2010 over the 5.4 V8. It was moved to F-350 cab/chassis and above only in 2011 with the 6.2L slotting in as the base engine for 250/350 pickups. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Rosadini Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 And that's the thing, the 7.3 was always planned as a Medum Duty engine that replaces the 6.8 V10. So I'd be expecting that it will be an option on F350 and up like the 6.8 V10 once was.. Look at the drop off in gasoline sales F250....50% F350....25% F450...NA F550..NA F650...majority of sales F750...small sales - exclusively diesel? Maybe Ford sees a lot more gasoline sales in F350 to F650 On a percentage basis I would say 650 and 750. There IS no gas conventional competition there now and the 7.3 will bring more diesel customers in who are done with the diesel premium. As for the other classes, is the 6.2 that uncompetitive now? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stray Kat Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 Man there is A LOT of talk about pushrods around the Internet. How long do we have to wait to find out about this engine again? Its been stated many times that production starts last quarter of this year. Well were 10.5 months in, times a gettin near. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stray Kat Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 I think it would be cool if Ford introduced this engine at a trade show and/or SEMA. This could be pretty epic if they do it right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Rosadini Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 I think it would be cool if Ford introduced this engine at a trade show and/or SEMA. This could be pretty epic if they do it right. Well if it is truly intended for commercial applications and in particular class 6 and 7, I think next big event is the Work Truck Show March 5-8 in Indianapolis. I would hope it is sooner as class 6 and 7 need a shot in the arm -that is if it is not too late and Hatchett has already decided that in addition to cars being a thing of the past, "commercial truck leadership" means class 1-3! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snooter Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 (edited) Well if it is truly intended for commercial applications and in particular class 6 and 7, I think next big event is the Work Truck Show March 5-8 in Indianapolis. I would hope it is sooner as class 6 and 7 need a shot in the arm -that is if it is not too late and Hatchett has already decided that in addition to cars being a thing of the past, "commercial truck leadership" means class 1-3! If this is indeed even being given the light of day or even worthy of consideration/discussion by hatchett then ford should just position itself as a class 2 manufacturing company and never again should ford be considerd anything other than a light duty alternative to ram or chebby.... Edited October 13, 2018 by snooter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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