Fgts Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 (edited) http://m.chevrolet.com/all-new-2018-equinox.html#.V-R8w3MpDqA -Cruze platform -9 speed auto -1.5 standard turbo engine -2.0 turbo as top engine -Diesel!!!!, 1.6 T.diesel and 40 mpg. Edited September 23, 2016 by Fgts 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 I'm surprised they're committing so much to going down the diesel road after what VW did to tarnish it so much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbone Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 Meh, it's not that interesting looking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 (edited) Is there something wrong with the pictures, or does it really look that squished on the outside? The back looks like it's falling off to me....the rear quarters/3rd window of it just look strange. I looked on Autoblog, but then it looks just as bad on GM's website: Edited September 23, 2016 by rmc523 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 I was thinking that it doesn't look too bad, but then I saw the last picture and the overstyled rear quarter panel and the bulge under the tail light. WTH Chevy!? It's like they always get so much right, but miss a little piece that blows the whole thing out of the water. Hey, at least it has round wheel wells! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 Bu..bu..bu...but it is innovative.....right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atomcat68 Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 I like it. Will this get the GM/Ford 9 speed first? Or is another car coming out with it before? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 I like it. Will this get the GM/Ford 9 speed first? Or is another car coming out with it before? IIRC Malibu is getting it first Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BORG Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 (edited) Well that was surprising. Wonder why now? It does carry over some of that new age non-linear sculpting that Chevy and Buick particularly like right now. Tends to look better in person. It has some skewed proportions and the rear is struggling to reconcile its squared haunches with the design. Otherwise just bored but it's certainly better than Escape. GM is very good st creating upscale designs for their cheaper cars, the details and finishes are crisp and clean. Nice to see the 9-Spd showing up on all the major Chevys in 2017. Edited September 23, 2016 by BORG 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 (edited) The diesel option is a surprising move by GM but a very good one, heavier vehicles like Utilities are where small diesel excel, a much better idea than limiting it to a compact sedan. Link The Equinox sits on a new architecture that lets the crossover’s instrument panel be positioned down and away. A low windshield panel allows a good view. It also has a rear “kneeling” seat: The bottom cushions tilt forward when seatbacks are lowered, to allow for a flat floor for loading. The 2018 model will offer the choice of three turbocharged engines, including a 1.6-liter turbo diesel that Chevy says will be the first turbo-diesel in North America in the compact SUV segment. So the Equinox is now a Compact Utility - that makes this more of a Captiva replacement... The 1.6 Turbo Diesel works in this sized vehicle but I wonder if GM is open to a larger 2.0 Turbo Diesel in a larger Utility, one where gerater economy would be even more noticeable. Edited September 23, 2016 by jpd80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sullynd Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 (edited) Was this an intentional release? Seems like an important vehicle to just let slip out like that. I think it looks pretty good. Will Chevy get an Acadia sized vehicle? My sister has one of the first of this model Nox (09?) and loves it. It replaced her Escape. I got her to look at the 17 Escape but she does not like it. Part of the appeal of the current Nox is its "tweener" size. I think shrinking it makes sense in the broader market, but for those who like the current size what are they to grow into? Certainly the Traverse will be too big. Edited September 23, 2016 by sullynd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbone Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 Clearly beauty is in the eye of the beholder, because I don't see how you can conclude that this is better looking than an Escape. It doesn't look significantly different than the outgoing model, as typical with GM redesigns. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grbeck Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 (edited) The side character line that flows down to rear wheel opening makes the car look flabby and fat by the rear wheel. If the vehicle isn't equipped with the largest tire/wheel option, the character line emphasizes how small the wheel/tire really is. The new Malibu shares this problem. I'm not seeing how this is better than the Escape. It does look larger than the Escape, but I would not say that it is better-looking. Edited September 23, 2016 by grbeck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 Other than the strange C pillar I think it looks pretty good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev-Mo Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 (edited) Is there something wrong with the pictures, or does it really look that squished on the outside? The back looks like it's falling off to me....the rear quarters/3rd window of it just look strange. I looked on Autoblog, but then it looks just as bad on GM's website: If you can't beat the Honda CRV -then join the Honda CRV! Asian car design - see how big of a smiley face grill you can get away with and keep pulling the headlamps back into the fenders as far as possible. Yawn.... I think they all look alike and boring - but the buying public loves it!! Edited September 23, 2016 by Kev-Mo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpvbs Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 Is the diesel the same one they used in the Cruze? Has the diesel Cruze been a sales success? It does make sense to use it in this application if it was already federalized and is on the same platform as the Cruze. I'm not a big fan of the curved body styling lines but they seem to be popular now. They look kind of random to me with no integrated styling purpose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 Is the diesel the same one they used in the Cruze? Has the diesel Cruze been a sales success? It does make sense to use it in this application if it was already federalized and is on the same platform as the Cruze. I'm not a big fan of the curved body styling lines but they seem to be popular now. They look kind of random to me with no integrated styling purpose. The diesel makes more sense in a heavier Utility where the difference in fuel economy is more noticeable and arguably greater benefit for meeting tighter CAFE limits., So using a 1.6 Turbo diesel in a compact Utility makes more sense than say an already fuel efficient compact car. Take that a step further, small efficient diesel options in Mid sized and large Utilities would make even more sense. Could you imagine a 36 mpg next gen Arcadia or Edge or maybe a 34 mpg Explorer/Traverse? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonj80 Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 I like it. Will this get the GM/Ford 9 speed first? Or is another car coming out with it before? Malibu 2.0T gets it this fall. Ford was going to launch the new 2.0l diesel in the MCE Edge, not sure if that is still in the US plans still or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blwnsmoke Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 (edited) ^ I am heavily considering a 17 Edge Sport but if they throw a diesel in I would be sold. Edited September 26, 2016 by blwnsmoke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BORG Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 Is Diesel still a thing enough people want? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pioneer Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 Is Diesel still a thing enough people want? I'd love to have a diesel Focus. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 Depends entirely on pricing. Not many would be willing to pay a $4K premium for one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blwnsmoke Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 (edited) What one does not consider is the resale value. If it was a $3k premium, you will recover at least half that when you go to sell. Even though gas motors are lasting longer and longer, the whole "diesel" mindset is that they are indestructable, last forever and get fantastic mpgs. I loved my 6.0, I love my 6.7 and would love a small Diesel in a new Edge. A 40mpg edge with 9 speed tranny and diesel motor would blow everything else away. Edited September 26, 2016 by blwnsmoke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 Depends on how long you keep it, and a $3K - $4K premium up front is more than a lot of folks are willing to spend regardless of resale or mpg benefits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 If you are buying it purely to save money, a diesel won't get you there. Not today. Before all the new emissions equipment, sure. But the DPF and other related equipment bits require you to burn more fuel. Don't forget, diesel is still roughly 10-20% higher than gasoline. Diesels cost more to maintain, and longevity is a concern with today's cleaner diesels. I'm just not sold on diesels to save money anymore. Now, if you are buying your vehicle to tow 12, 15, 20k+ pounds? There's no question, diesel is the way to go. Less than that, I think you can get similar costs/mile out of a GTDI engine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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