jpd80 Posted September 10, 2016 Share Posted September 10, 2016 (edited) C-Max ..........................3,800 (62 Days) Fiesta..........................15,000 (79 Days) Focus .........................31,900 (70 Days) Fusion ........................56,100 (77 Days) Mustang .....................22,800 (71 Days) Taurus ........................10,800 (82 Days) Total Ford car .......... 140,400 (74 Days) E-series van ...................8,100 (45 Days) Edge ............................32,100 (74 Days) Escape..........................62,300 (58 Days) Expedition ......................9,900 (45 Days) Explorer.........................48,600 (60 Days) F series ...................... 245,100 (95 Days) Flex .................................4,100 (58 Days) Transit ............................33,700 (73 Days) Transit Connect (I) ..........16,500 (118 Days) Ford trk. (D) .............. 443,900 (76 Days) Ford trk. (I) ..................16,500 (118 Days) Total Ford trk. ............. 460,400 (77 Days) Ford (D) ...................... 584,300 (76 Days) Ford (I) ....................16,500 (118 Days) Total Ford ................ 600,800 (77 Days) Continental ................100 (– Days) MKS ..........................1,000 (80 Days) MKZ ..........................11,600 (110 Days) Total Lincoln car ......12,700 (107 Days) MKC ..........................8,500 (90 Days) MKT ..........................1,100 (105 Days) MKX ..........................10,000 (98 Days) Navigator....................3,200 (104 Days) Total Lincoln trk. ......22,800 (96 Days) Total Lincoln ............35,500 (100 Days) Ford Motor Co. car ...... 153,100 (76 Days) Ford Motor Co. trk. (D)...466,700 (77 Days) Ford Motor Co. trk. (I) ...16,500 (118 Days) Ford Motor Co. trk. .... 483,200 (78 Days) FORD MOTOR CO. ........ 636,300 (78 Days) Edited September 10, 2016 by jpd80 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted September 10, 2016 Author Share Posted September 10, 2016 Cascada (I) ................3,600 (150 Days) LaCrosse ....................7,200 117 ( Days) Regal..........................6,600 (78 Days) Verano........................9,600 (54 Days) Buick car (D) ..........23,400 (72 Days) Buick car (I) ............3,600 (150 Days) Total Buick car ........27,000 (77 Days) Enclave ......................11,700 (58 Days) Encore (I) ..................29,300 (130 Days) Envision (I) ................4,000 (68 Days) Buick trk. (D) ..........11,700 (58 Days) Buick trk. (I) ............33,300 (89 Days) Total Buick trk. ........45,000 (93 Days) Buick (D)..................35,100 (67 Days) Buick (I) ..................36,900 (120 Days) Total Buick ..............72,000 (86 Days) ATS ............................6,100 (64 Days) CT6 ............................4,300 (90 Days) CTS ............................4,600 (84 Days) XTS ............................3,300 (38 Days) Total Cadillac car ......18,300 (64 Days) Escalade ....................6,200 (86 Days) Escalade ESV ............4,700 (104 Days) SRX............................300 (8 Days) XT5 ............................12,300 (65 Days) Total Cadillac trk.......23,500 (68 Days) Total Cadillac ............41,800 (66 Days) Camaro ......................29,900 (139 Days) Caprice (I) ..................300 (– Days) Corvette ....................11,400 (97 Days) Cruze..........................41,600 (48 Days) Impala ........................8,000 (37 Days) Malibu ........................46,300 (72 Days) Sonic..........................8,700 (55 Days) Spark (I) ....................6,100 (54 Days) SS (I) ........................900 (– Days) Volt ............................5,200 (65 Days) Chevrolet car (D) ...... 151,100 (66 Days) Chevrolet car (I) ......7,300 (64 Days) Total Chevrolet car .... 158,400 (66 Days) City Express ..............1,400 (101 Days) Colorado ....................19,100 (54 Days) Equinox ......................40,900 (70 Days) Express van................26,500 (103 Days) Silverado .................... 157,900 (78 Days) Suburban ..................16,500 (75 Days) Tahoe ........................24,300 (76 Days) Traverse ....................16,300 (50 Days) Trax ............................18,800 (70 Days) Total Chevrolet trk. .... 321,700 (74 Days) Chevrolet (D) ............ 472,800 (71 Days) Chevrolet (I)..............7,300 (64 Days) Total Chevrolet .......... 480,100 (71 Days) Acadia ........................16,800 (72 Days) Canyon ......................7,600 (59 Days) Savana van ................5,800 (218 Days) Sierra ........................60,300 (90 Days) Terrain ........................21,800 (9 Days) Yukon ........................11,800 (72 Days) Yukon XL ..................10,200 (76 Days) Total GMC trk. .......... 134,300 (82 Days) GM car (D) .............. 192,800 (66 Days) GM car (I) ..............10,900 (96 Days) GM car .................... 203,700 (67 Days) GM trk. (D).............. 491,200 (75 Days) GM trk. (I) ..............33,300 (117 Days) GM trk. .................... 524,500 (77 Days) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted September 11, 2016 Author Share Posted September 11, 2016 (edited) 200 ............................19,500 (121 Days) 300 ............................9,800 (48 Days) Total Chrysler car ......29,400 (80 Days) Pacifica ......................19,300 (67 Days) Town & Country ........2,600 (37 Days) Total Chrysler trk. ....21,800 (61 Days) Total Chrysler ............51,200 (71 Days) Challenger ..................18,200 (90 Days) Charger ......................19,100 (58 Days) Dart ............................15,400 138 Days) Viper ..........................100 (59 Days) Total Dodge car ........52,900 (82 Days) Caravan ......................14,200 (35 Days) Durango ....................12,800 (64 Days) Journey ......................27,200 (60 Days) Total Dodge trk. ........54,200 (51 Days) Total Dodge .............. 107,000 (63 Days) ProMaster ..................5,900 (47 Days) ProMaster City (I) ......4,600 (120 Days) Ram pickup................ 158,400 (102 Days) Ram trk. (D).............. 164,300 (98 Days) Ram trk. (I) ..............4,600 120 Days) Total Ram trk. .......... 168,800 (99 Days) Total Dodge/Ram ........ 275,900 (81 Days) 500 ............................6,300 (133 Days) Spider (I)....................1,000 59 Days) Fiat car (D) ............6,300 (133 Days) Fiat car (I) ..............1,000 (59 Days) Total Fiat car ..........7,400 (113 Days) 500L (I)......................700 (148 Days) 500X (I)......................4,600 132 Days) Total Fiat truck (I) ....5,300 (134 Days) Fiat (D)....................6,300 (133 Days) Fiat (I) ....................6,400 (111 Days) Total Fiat ................12,700 (121 Days) Cherokee ....................56,000 (61 Days) Compass ....................15,000 (44 Days) Grand Cherokee ........58,300 (82 Days) Patriot ........................33,300 (73 Days) Renegade (I) ..............29,300 (93 Days) Wrangler ....................25,800 (44 Days) Jeep trk. (D) ............ 188,300 (63 Days) Jeep trk. (I) ..............29,300 (93 Days) Total Jeep trk. .......... 217,600 (65 Days) FCA US car (D) ........88,600 (82 Days) FCA US car (I) ..........1,000 (729 Days) FCA US car ..............89,600 (83 Days) FCA US trk. (D) ........ 428,600 (70 Days) FCA US trk. (I)..........39,200 (100 Days) FCA US trk. .............. 467,800 (72 Days) FCA US .................... 557,400 (74 Days) Edited September 11, 2016 by jpd80 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopCat501 Posted September 11, 2016 Share Posted September 11, 2016 Great info; thanks for posting this each month. So is more Mustang production heading overseas? August USA sales of Mustang declined m-o-m but inventory declined significantly from 26600 to 22800. Hopefully lots of August production was sent overseas to ease the unbelievable delay time from order-to-delivery being experienced in some countries. As USA peak seasonal demand for Mustang winds down Ford now has the enviable option to maintain relatively stable production and retain less for USA while shipping more units overseas. . . . . meanwhile you have Camaro . . . . inventory level from oldest to most recent -- 22200 > 26000 > 27400 > 29900; at what point does GM cry uncle and either cut production or bust out massive incentives??? (perhaps GM thinks the tepid cut of $1000 recently for select models will do the trick) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted September 13, 2016 Author Share Posted September 13, 2016 Great info; thanks for posting this each month. You're welcome, glad to do it. So is more Mustang production heading overseas? August USA sales of Mustang declined m-o-m but inventory declined significantly from 26600 to 22800. Hopefully lots of August production was sent overseas to ease the unbelievable delay time from order-to-delivery being experienced in some countries. As USA peak seasonal demand for Mustang winds down Ford now has the enviable option to maintain relatively stable production and retain less for USA while shipping more units overseas. Makes me wonder that exact thing, whether inventory actually includes all builds even exports to Canada and ROW. . . . . meanwhile you have Camaro . . . . inventory level from oldest to most recent -- 22200 > 26000 > 27400 > 29900; at what point does GM cry uncle and either cut production or bust out massive incentives??? (perhaps GM thinks the tepid cut of $1000 recently for select models will do the trick) I applaud GM for trying to elevate the perception and quality of Camaro, I just thing they have done a very bad job of: 1) Marketing the car as significantly changed over the previous car 2) Not effectively connected with as many buyers as they expected 3) Not managing inventory levels to reflect sales. There's absolutely nothing wrong with the cars as far as I'm concerned, all the issues can be laid at the feet of GM not properly marketing the car and zeroing in on the value customer. (I'm not talking about cheap prices, more the perception of a great deal). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trailhiker Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 Ford seems to have a healthy inventory. I consider 60-70 day for cars as a good average. Trucks and vans have so many more configurations, that they need to maintain a higher inventory. It now looks like luxury cars are going that same route. That makes sense, as they are splitting the market into standard, performance, and high end (black label), forcing the dealers to keep more examples in inventory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 You're welcome, glad to do it. Makes me wonder that exact thing, whether inventory actually includes all builds even exports to Canada and ROW. I applaud GM for trying to elevate the perception and quality of Camaro, I just thing they have done a very bad job of: 1) Marketing the car as significantly changed over the previous car 2) Not effectively connected with as many buyers as they expected 3) Not managing inventory levels to reflect sales. There's absolutely nothing wrong with the cars as far as I'm concerned, all the issues can be laid at the feet of GM not properly marketing the car and zeroing in on the value customer. (I'm not talking about cheap prices, more the perception of a great deal). I think part of its biggest problem is it looks like it barely changed. Side by side the differences are obvious, but seeing one on the road by itself, it doesn't look all that different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ice-capades Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 (edited) My 2015 Mustang GT Premium Fastback (White w/Black Leather, #401A, Automatic w/every available option) was finally sold about 7 weeks ago. At about the same time I got two 2017 Mustang Premium's schedule with virtually the same equipment levels that were both ordered as "Demo" units to expedite scheduling with the assistance of the scheduler at the Ford regional office. Both vehicles were scheduled for production on the same day with consecutive VIN numbers... one being a Fastback and the other being a Convertible. The convertible was shipped immediately and is now at the Newark, NJ ramp for loading onto a carrier for delivery to the dealership within the next few days. The Fastback that I ordered as my new "Demo" has been sitting at the Flat Rock plant since it was released for shipping on 08/30. After contacting my Ford representative last week I was informed that the car wouldn't ship until Monday 09/12. My further inquiry to Ford's Business Assistance Center (BAC) resulted in a reply today that the vehicle was on a "Plant Hold" and wouldn't ship until at least 09/30 meaning delivery to the dealership no sooner than mid-October. Two cars with nearly identical equipment and the car I'm waiting for is stuck at the plant for an undetermined hold. Vehicles ordered for "Demonstrator" service are scheduled second only to customer retail orders. So what is the issue with the "Plant Hold" Ford? Shipping out of the Flat Rock plant has been an issue for years with vehicles often being sent to MAP in order to be loaded on rail cars. Of course, Ford will never tell Dealers what a "Plant Hold" is for! Things have changed a lot at Ford since Alan Mulally retired and the Ford career executives have gone back to their old ways of protecting their own career turf first. Ford generates allocation for vehicle scheduling each week but often allocation isn't scheduled because Ford reports that the plant is full. Ford can't even figure out how many vehicles they can build for any given week. As frustrated as I am, I can certainly appreciate what happens when a retail customer is forced to deal with these delays! Edited September 13, 2016 by ice-capades 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted September 14, 2016 Author Share Posted September 14, 2016 Did somebody at Ford forget to organize/book shipping dates for September? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ice-capades Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 Latest update to the Mustang shipping fiasco noted above... After contacting Ford's BAC (Business Assistance Center) after hearing back from my Ford representative, the BAC response was the car is under a "Plant Hold" and will not ship before September 30th with the actual shipping date subject to change. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted September 20, 2016 Author Share Posted September 20, 2016 Latest update to the Mustang shipping fiasco noted above... After contacting Ford's BAC (Business Assistance Center) after hearing back from my Ford representative, the BAC response was the car is under a "Plant Hold" and will not ship before September 30th with the actual shipping date subject to change. Wow, I'm watching dealer stock go down and down and wondering how much this is hurting.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 Wow, I'm watching dealer stock go down and down and wondering how much this is hurting.... For whatever reason, that happens a lot for cars produced at FRAP. Never did find out why while I was there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ice-capades Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 Surprisingly, the car got shipped finally and is now on a rail car at an intermediate point in Ohio on its way to the Newark Ramp! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted September 23, 2016 Author Share Posted September 23, 2016 (edited) Surprisingly, the car got shipped finally and is now on a rail car at an intermediate point in Ohio on its way to the Newark Ramp! Good, I bet that's a relief to a lot of dealers and buyers... Blame it on Gremlins....and not the AMC type. Edited September 23, 2016 by jpd80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ice-capades Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 2017 Mustang GT is now on a rail car at an intermediate stop in New Jersey before it lands at the Newark Ramp. It could stay at the present location for a few days but I've contacted Fleet Car dispatch that has "hot listed" the car for expedited delivery. I'll be keeping my fingers crossed that the car will be delivered by the end of next week so I can put it on the road for next weekend! Believe me, after driving used cars for the past 2.5 months while waiting for the new Mustang, I understand the frustration that customers go through! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted September 24, 2016 Author Share Posted September 24, 2016 (edited) 2017 Mustang GT is now on a rail car at an intermediate stop in New Jersey before it lands at the Newark Ramp. It could stay at the present location for a few days but I've contacted Fleet Car dispatch that has "hot listed" the car for expedited delivery. I'll be keeping my fingers crossed that the car will be delivered by the end of next week so I can put it on the road for next weekend! Believe me, after driving used cars for the past 2.5 months while waiting for the new Mustang, I understand the frustration that customers go through! Did you notice any increase in buyers settling for '16 Mustangs as opposed to keeping their orders? Edited September 24, 2016 by jpd80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ice-capades Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 (edited) As of yesterday morning at 8:00am, per the latest Vehicle Visibility report just run, the car is at the last stop before arriving at the Newark Ramp! Since it finally left the Flat Rock plant the shipping has gone very smoothly and quicker than usual. Now I'm just hoping that Fleet Car actually expedites the delivery to the dealership! Edited September 25, 2016 by ice-capades Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ice-capades Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 Did you notice any increase in buyers settling for '16 Mustangs as opposed to keeping their orders? Being in the Northeast, the Mustang is a niche market for us so we don't stock anywhere near the volume of Mustangs as dealers in other markets. Even so, Mustang sales have been pretty strong since the 2015MY Mustang was introduced. Two months ago we were offered allocation for two 2017 Mustangs for September production which I'd have taken anyway but our Dealer Principal and General Manager decided they wanted 8, even though we're going into a slower sales period now. I was able to get a number of base EcoBoost Fastbacks scheduled with automatic transmission (the volume model) and 2 hard-to-get V-6/Automatic Fastbacks along with a EcoBoost Premium Convertible (Ruby Red/Black Leather/Automatic/Navigation) & GT Premium Convertible (Ruby Red/Automatic, Navigation, 19" Wheels, Adaptive Cruise). There's also a Magnetic Metallic GT Premium Fastback (6-Speed Manual/Black Leather/GT Performance Package) on the way. Until these other cars hit the ground at the dealership, we only have one 2015 and one 2016 Mustang in stock, both being GT's. The 2015 is a Mustang GT Fastback w/6-Speed Manual, Black Leather, 50th Anniversary Appearance Package and every other option which we just added Silver Over-the-Top Racing Stripes to because we've had the car for so long. None of us can believe that we've had this car so long as normally it's a car that would have sold very quickly. The 2016 Mustang GT in stock is a Silver GT w/Automatic & Black Cloth. Buyers for this generation Mustang are buying the cars with their desired specifications so it's made it a bit more difficult to decide what models, options and features to order for stock. With minimal incentives from Ford, buyers are buying the cars that meet their specifications regardless of the model year. The customers with very specific requirements continue to place factory orders per usual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted September 26, 2016 Author Share Posted September 26, 2016 Nice selection there.. I can imagine it must be hard to cater for walk-ins as well as buyers who like to order. Hopefully, those on order are varied enough to attract a cross section of buyers, half the battle is getting people to sit in them, then the car sells itself. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ice-capades Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 As it turned out, the 2017 Mustang GT arrived at the Newark Ramp and had been unloaded from the rail car, loaded on a car carrier and delivered even before the Vehicle Visibility status had been updated. Thank you Fleet Car for the expedited delivery! The car was delivered to the dealership on Wednesday morning (09/28/2016) at about 8:45am but I'm still waiting for the service department, due to the usual end of the month deliveries and other service work in progress, to get it prepped and cleaned so I can start driving it. I've attached a few photos of the car after it came off the car carrier. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 Nice! Lucky dog! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 Now that is a good looking car. Good luck and many happy miles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 Sweet! So how does this "demo" work? How long do you get to keep it and do you have to loan it out for test drives? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ice-capades Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 Sweet! So how does this "demo" work? How long do you get to keep it and do you have to loan it out for test drives? I get to drive the new "Demo" until it's sold or gets close to the Ford Credit mileage limit which if I remember correctly is 10,000 miles. I'll never put that many miles on it as I only live .9 miles from the office and don't get too many opportunities to drive more than an a half hour or hour away via the highways. I do occasionally take it for highway runs just to put higher speed runs on it for a distance and when appropriate let it gallop a bit when conditions are favorable! For advertising purposes, Ford does not consider "Demo" units to be new cars and will not pay advertising co-op dollars for any ad including "Demos" being advertised as new. However, in Connecticut, 'Demos" are sold as "New Car Demonstrators" and treated as new cars since they've never been registered or titled. As a "Demo" unit it does get used for test drives to qualified prospects seriously interested in it. Otherwise, potential customers drive one of the other GT's in stock with the automatic transmission. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 Nice! Enjoy! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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