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Oil for 2.0L EcoBooost 5W30 !?


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#1 OFFLINE   theoldwizard

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Posted 09 August 2016 - 10:50 PM

So I just picked up a 2016 Edge with the 2.0L EcoBoost.  My son noticed the oild fill cap calls for 5W30 oil, not the much more common 5W20.  No big deal, right ?  Except I hear that the 5W30 is not available in the 5 quart bottles.

 

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Posted 10 August 2016 - 05:52 AM

Wiz....5W30 is plentiful in the 5 quart bottles....was down at the local Advance Auto...and there were racks of 'em...

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Posted 21 August 2016 - 06:37 PM

What oil does this 2.0T EB ship with from the factory? Or does the motor come with special "break-in" oil?  (Extra additives that apparently some manufacturers include with the factory fill).

 

I want to switch my new Edge over to synthetic oil (assuming it doesn't ship with).  Should I do this right away or should I wait for a few thousand kms?


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Posted 21 August 2016 - 07:16 PM

It ships with normal motorcraftservice 5w-30 - nothing special.

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Posted 21 August 2016 - 07:16 PM

What oil does this 2.0T EB ship with from the factory? Or does the motor come with special "break-in" oil?  (Extra additives that apparently some manufacturers include with the factory fill).
 
I want to switch my new Edge over to synthetic oil (assuming it doesn't ship with).  Should I do this right away or should I wait for a few thousand kms?

Ford recommends and therefore uses synthetic oil in their engines, however I don't know if it ships with any any additives in it. My dealer recommended changing it at 5000 miles, then whenever the car's sensors indicated after that.

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Posted 22 August 2016 - 07:11 AM

What oil does this 2.0T EB ship with from the factory? Or does the motor come with special "break-in" oil?  (Extra additives that apparently some manufacturers include with the factory fill).

 

I want to switch my new Edge over to synthetic oil (assuming it doesn't ship with).  Should I do this right away or should I wait for a few thousand kms?

"Break in" oil is an "old mechanics tale" !  Cars ship with exactly the same oil that they were tested with and the exact same oil that is recommended in the owner's manual.

 

Changing oil BEFORE the recommended interval is a waste of money (assuming you drive under "normal" conditions). With all of the testing that the SAE and API do on oil today, there is very little, IF ANY, difference between different brands oil.   Motorcraft semi-synthetic is actually a very good deal.



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Posted 22 August 2016 - 07:14 AM

Ford recommends and therefore uses synthetic oil in their engines, however I don't know if it ships with any any additives in it. 

I am am pretty certain that ALL Ford US gasoline powered vehicles ship with Motorcraft semi-synthetic oil with NO additional additive !


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Posted 22 August 2016 - 07:32 AM

I am am pretty certain that ALL US gasoline powered vehicles ship with Motorcraft semi-synthetic oil with NO additional additive !

 

You would be correct.



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Posted 22 August 2016 - 09:06 AM

I am am pretty certain that ALL US gasoline powered vehicles ship with Motorcraft semi-synthetic oil with NO additional additive !

GM & Mobil used to advertise not all that long ago that the Corvette shipped with a factory fill of Mobil 1 synthetic.  I find it very odd that all engines made (or sold) in the US ship with the same oil.  I don't know why there would be a requirement for this or it would be an enormous coincidence.


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Posted 22 August 2016 - 09:50 AM

GM & Mobil used to advertise not all that long ago that the Corvette shipped with a factory fill of Mobil 1 synthetic.  I find it very odd that all engines made (or sold) in the US ship with the same oil.  I don't know why there would be a requirement for this or it would be an enormous coincidence.

 

He was talking about Ford US vehicles.  



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Posted 22 August 2016 - 10:06 AM

"Break in" oil is an "old mechanics tale" !  Cars ship with exactly the same oil that they were tested with and the exact same oil that is recommended in the owner's manual.

 

Changing oil BEFORE the recommended interval is a waste of money (assuming you drive under "normal" conditions). With all of the testing that the SAE and API do on oil today, there is very little, IF ANY, difference between different brands oil.   Motorcraft semi-synthetic is actually a very good deal.

I'll try not to start an oil war here, but there are lots of differences between oil brands. Manuals usually don't recommend a brand, but viscosity grade(s) which are often dependent on the local conditions and driving styles. 

 

It will be a waste of money to dump the original new oil & filter, but I run synthetic a LOT longer than most manufacturer manuals estimate (often 3k miles or 5k kms).  I change the oil in my sports car about once a year and it sees everything from harsh winters to extreme track days… and the used oil analysis I did on it after 15k kms said it was doing just fine.

 

Synthetic oil has smaller (more uniform) molecules and I don’t want the engine/seals getting used to conventional dino oil, which typically also has more impurities.  With this 2.0L engine being a direct injection turbo, I think it will benefit both short and long-term from using high quality oil (and premium 91+ octane gas).  Personally I’m considering swapping the oil in my 2017 Edge as soon as I get it.


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Posted 22 August 2016 - 10:09 AM

I change the oil in my 182k mile focus every 6-8k miles

The new one with just over 10k miles we changed at 6k, and will probably let it go until it tells us it's time to change it, though I will be rotating the tires before that.

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Posted 22 August 2016 - 11:45 AM

Don't forget the factory std Motorcraft is a synthetic blend.



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Posted 22 August 2016 - 11:48 AM

Don't forget the factory std Motorcraft is a synthetic blend.

Is it? I always thought it was full synthetic.


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Posted 22 August 2016 - 11:56 AM

I change the oil in my 182k mile focus every 6-8k miles

The new one with just over 10k miles we changed at 6k, and will probably let it go until it tells us it's time to change it, though I will be rotating the tires before that.


I go by the manual. 7k miles and use Motorcraft 5w-20 blend. It doesn't tick, drip or burn oil. Rotate tires every change.

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Posted 22 August 2016 - 11:56 AM

Is it? I always thought it was full synthetic.


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Posted 22 August 2016 - 12:03 PM

Yep, blend.



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Posted 25 August 2016 - 11:43 AM

 

 

Changing oil BEFORE the recommended interval is a waste of money

In a general sense yes.  However, I have pulled the valve covers off of numerous European cars (BMW imparticular) and have seen what the effects of 15K oil change intervals do on high mileage engines.


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Posted 06 September 2016 - 02:16 PM

In a general sense yes.  However, I have pulled the valve covers off of numerous European cars (BMW imparticular) and have seen what the effects of 15K oil change intervals do on high mileage engines.

 

Longest Ford recommends is 10K...going by the oil life sensor.


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Posted 12 October 2016 - 04:10 PM

So I just picked up a 2016 Edge with the 2.0L EcoBoost.  My son noticed the oild fill cap calls for 5W30 oil, not the much more common 5W20.  No big deal, right ?  Except I hear that the 5W30 is not available in the 5 quart bottles.

 

Tell me this is not true and where can I find it !

In the showroom the other day I'm pretty sure I noticed the oil cap on the V6 was 5w20.  I guess only the EB is 5w30 (not sure about the Edge Sport though).


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