Uaw_for_what Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 Id like to give a shoutout to the Heads of UAW for selling us out for all the Sacrifices we made for them during the Auto Bailouts. I know you Union Suckasses will probably be upset with this post but it is what is. Thank you for letting the Company do as they may with our Rights. Ive never in my Life went thru so much Silly nonsense as what we are going thru Today. I just had to rant. Enough Said!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTP'er Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 What he said. ^^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uaw_for_what Posted August 4, 2016 Author Share Posted August 4, 2016 Mtp'er,Thanks for the Love Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dayshift Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 Uaw_for_what Tell us a little about what you are going through. I may not agree with you regarding the UAW as a whole, I have seen some poor performance from our union in the past few years. I'm sure we can all relate to your plight. Gook luck and don't be afraid to push hard for what you need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uaw_for_what Posted August 10, 2016 Author Share Posted August 10, 2016 Just the overall treatment of Seniority Employees. We gave up alot during concession time and we have not got anything back but hard times from Management. And all there excuse is Merit and Ability. Grievance procedure has been left on the back burner for them to Terminate employees as well.The younger group of Management has no respect for us as well. I remember when the Company would work with individuals and thats not the case when they are sending head hunters out to Create a Hostile Environment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caustic Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 I find it's more of us hourly employees that create the hostile work enviorment than management. Just sayin. I'm treated by most supervisors with respect and I've only been talked down to twice, I pushed back immediately both backed off. Now my team leader is a piece of shit wanna be manager that is so condescending and such an asshole that if I didn't have my two little ones, I'd be willing to throw this job away and whip his ass. Us real workers(you, myself, and the rest of us doing real work) need to fix the problems before anything will change. Higher seniority cannot continue to do what I see a lot of them do and that happen. Management doesn't give a shit about us and apparently neither do we. I know, we all started at the bottom blah blah blah. I have worked with this one old timer a bit, he's got 23 years, he does everything fair with me always. Some higher seniority guys dick the dog and try to make my life harder because "i don't have time in yet". The problem is the union, which is us, the union isn't the committee people, the assholes at the local, or the useless chairman. It's us. If more people voted in elections, at contract time, etc. it could be changed. If more decent people ran that'd help too. Two guys at work would make excellent union guys, they understand the contracts and take no shit. They look out for everyone. I asked why neither tried to get in as a committee man because they'd be great at it. Both told me the same thing with different words. "I couldn't walk into management's office and argue for someone that I know is a complete piece of shit that doesn't deserve their job." Maybe the first step in the right direction would be to enable the union to have less traction to save people that show up to work drunk or high as a kite. The attendance policy is a joke, 9 times before you lose your job? Shit like this keeps us all down, end rant. Sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdy1s Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 (edited) What do you mean?.....It only took us 16 years to get $1.98 of the $2.00 raise that we gave up? Not to mention all of the other give ups that we will never get back......."Richest Contract in History" For who? Edited August 11, 2016 by birdy1s 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uaw_for_what Posted August 11, 2016 Author Share Posted August 11, 2016 Thanks birdy1s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caustic Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 What do you mean?.....It only took us 16 years to get $1.98 of the $2.00 raise that we gave up? Not to mention all of the other give ups that we will never get back......."Richest Contract in History" For who? I voted no. Some of us new people we talking at work and a lot of us felt there shouldn't have been any waiting and the two raises you all were getting over four years should have been given at once, day one and the lump sum bonus should have been three, once a year, instead of just two. I still don't get how most plants had a 55/60% voter turn out and DTP, had almost 98%. Most fucks at DTP don't take the time to bathe let alone vote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 I voted no. Some of us new people we talking at work and a lot of us felt there shouldn't have been any waiting and the two raises you all were getting over four years should have been given at once, day one and the lump sum bonus should have been three, once a year, instead of just two. I still don't get how most plants had a 55/60% voter turn out and DTP, had almost 98%. Most fucks at DTP don't take the time to bathe let alone vote. Shady dealings, that's how that happened. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pioneer Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 Most fucks at DTP don't take the time to bathe let alone vote. I think that is a pretty childish generalization. Anyway, the Union was walking up and down the assembly line with a vote bucket begging people to vote Yes. That's how the vote total and participation wad so high. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caustic Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 I think that is a pretty childish generalization. Anyway, the Union was walking up and down the assembly line with a vote bucket begging people to vote Yes. That's how the vote total and participation wad so high. I'm sure. Childish it maybe sir but you get the point and I still find it hard to believe that close to 100% were accounted for and such low at other plants. Taking the polls to the voters in my opinion is pressuring people and that shouldn't be allowed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 I'm sure. Childish it maybe sir but you get the point and I still find it hard to believe that close to 100% were accounted for and such low at other plants. Taking the polls to the voters in my opinion is pressuring people and that shouldn't be allowed. The only way to prevent that would be to have a third party conduct the voting, and that's definitely not happening any time soon. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pioneer Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 Childish it maybe sir but you get the point Actually, no, I do not get your point. As a DTP employee, please explain it to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niteeyes Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 last I checked, we're still making 2 to 3 times the average earner. I'm pretty happy with what I got. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caustic Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 Actually, no, I do not get your point. As a DTP employee, please explain it to me. I just see a lot of people put in a half ass effort, that's all. The few times I've voted(everything I've been able to in my 3 years) I haven't seen many people doing so. Out of my team alone only three of us voted on the national and local agreements. Several have said they didn't and won't vote in the future because their votes don't matter. Terrible attitude to have IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uaw_for_what Posted August 12, 2016 Author Share Posted August 12, 2016 last I checked, we're still making 2 to 3 times the average earner. I'm pretty happy with what I got. So thats all you care about is Money? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caustic Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 So thats all you care about is Money? Hard to live without it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RougeWelder Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 last I checked, we're still making 2 to 3 times the average earner. I'm pretty happy with what I got. Are you shitting me???? So if next contract, Ford cut your pay to $20/hr.... would you still be happy cause you still make more than the average earner? FYI...the average earner does not make enough $$$ to comfortably support a family of 4. For that matter, they cannot comfortably support themselves and their spouse. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatso Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 (edited) Verizon just settled a strike and the IBEW workers make 20% more than UAW trades but then, production workers are not the majority voting on their contract.My beef with the UAW is that I am on a 7/12 mandatory 12 work schedule that does not pay me overtime until after 10 hours.I could have negotiated that without paying union dues,on my hands and knees with cum on my face! Edited August 15, 2016 by Fatso Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caustic Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 Verizon just settled a strike and the IBEW workers make 20% more than UAW trades but then, production workers are not the majority voting on their contract.My beef with the UAW is that I am on a 7/12 mandatory 12 work schedule that does not pay me overtime until after 10 hours.I could have negotiated that without paying union dues,on my hands and knees with cum on my face! I've heard a few trades guys saying that before. Not being a dick, so don't take this wrong. What would be a fair solution for he trades work schedule? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hee haw Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 I've heard a few trades guys saying that before. Not being a dick, so don't take this wrong. What would be a fair solution for he trades work schedule? 5 days, 8 hours per shift 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatso Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 (edited) Well yeah,,a traditional 40 hour week M-F with OT after 8 and all day on Sat and Sun.The company will never again agree to that because they get 365/24/7 coverage while paying less in OT.Some guys who 'live to work' like the 7/12`s.Some guys who live far away from the plant love the 7/12s.I tell ya that is 7 days you will think you are in jail.Do the miserable people you are forced to work with sometimes get on your nerves? Edited August 16, 2016 by Fatso Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caustic Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 Well yeah,,a traditional 40 hour week M-F with OT after 8 and all day on Sat and Sun.The company will never again agree to that because they get 365/24/7 coverage while paying less in OT.Some guys who 'live to work' like the 7/12`s.Some guys who live far away from the plant love the 7/12s.I tell ya that is 7 days you will think you are in jail.Do the miserable people you are forced to work with sometimes get on your nerves? So you work 7 days, 12 hours. You only get OT after 10 hours? No OT for everything over the 40? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dark270 Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 (edited) Do the miserable people you are forced to work with sometimes get on your nerves? Edited by Fatso, 15 August 2016 - 10:27 PM. only you! im ashamed u are even ford skilled, maybe u should go see how toyota skilled trades work ? Edited August 17, 2016 by dark270 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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