CD6 Platform

[silvrsvt]

Was trolling on Linkedin today

 

 

 

Second one makes me wonder if its actually the Continental, since the other platform number is the MKZ

Edited July 21, 2016 by silvrsvt

[2b2]

:thumb:

interesting getting a name semi-officially confirmed

[BORG]

Product cycles are usually longer than a few years, Continental should have a solid 7-8 years before it's on a new platform....keep in mind it's not even on sale yet and we're talking about an all-new platform? The origin of the CD6 story was always as an Explorer/Aviator underpinning so I would expect that to be where the development is right now.

Edited July 21, 2016 by BORG

[silvrsvt]

Product cycles are usually longer than a few years, Continental should have a solid 7-8 years before it's on a new platform....keep in mind it's not even on sale yet and we're talking about an all-new platform? The origin of the CD6 story was always as an Explorer/Aviator underpinning so I would expect that to be where the development is right now.

 

Platform names:

 

CD4

2013–present Ford Fusion (CD391)

2013–present Lincoln MKZ (CD533)

2014–present Ford Mondeo (CD391)

2015–present Ford Edge (CD539N)

2016–present Ford Galaxy (CD390E)

2016–present Ford S-Max (CD539E)

2016–present Ford Taurus (D568 China market)

 

It wouldn't be much of a stretch to think that the Continental could be CD6, since the official platform hasn't been said publicly.

 

I'd assume that Ford has their employees sign NDA's and putting a platform name of a program that your working on a public website like Linkedin wouldn't be good for your future employment.

 

If this guy that works in powertrain for the CD6 last year...Conti development would have been in full swing then. The Conti was shown off in March of 2015.

 

Also note that the MKZ (CD553) has a completely different program number then the Fusion (CD391)...

[fordmantpw]

I'd assume that Ford has their employees sign NDA's and putting a platform name of a program that your working on a public website like Linkedin wouldn't be good for your future employment.

 

I was thinking the same thing. Somebody posted one on a Super Duty forum last week with a note about the 2020 10R140 transmission.

[fuzzymoomoo]

 

Platform names:

 

CD4

2013present Ford Fusion (CD391)

2013present Lincoln MKZ (CD533)

2014present Ford Mondeo (CD391)

2015present Ford Edge (CD539N)

2016present Ford Galaxy (CD390E)

2016present Ford S-Max (CD539E)

2016present Ford Taurus (D568 China market)

 

It wouldn't be much of a stretch to think that the Continental could be CD6, since the official platform hasn't been said publicly.

 

I'd assume that Ford has their employees sign NDA's and putting a platform name of a program that your working on a public website like Linkedin wouldn't be good for your future employment.

 

If this guy that works in powertrain for the CD6 last year...Conti development would have been in full swing then. The Conti was shown off in March of 2015.

 

Also note that the MKZ (CD553) has a completely different program number then the Fusion (CD391)...

Program code for Continental is D544

[akirby]

:thumb:

interesting getting a name semi-officially confirmed

 

That was confirmed via either the same linkedin account or some other online resume over a year ago.

[akirby]

Continental was started way before CD6.

[BORG]

I'm sure it's intentionally obfuscated so we don't really know what the Continental is related to because Ford won't come out and say it. I believe Ford said the Chinese Taurus was on a new platform called "ABB", which further confuses things but the two cars are definitely related.

Edited July 21, 2016 by BORG

[akirby]

Ford may not have said it publicly (they rarely comment directly on platforms) but they certainly told the press.

[RichardJensen]

I believe Ford said the Chinese Taurus was on a new platform called "ABB", which further confuses things but the two cars are definitely related.

 

Nope. All the sources for that are pretty unreliable:

https://www.google.com/#q=ford+taurus+abb+china

 

CarNewsChina.com republishing content to generate the clickz

[sullynd]

Welcome to 2014.

 

There is someone on LinkedIn who claims to have been working on it since 2012. he had previously worked on CD4.

 

http://www.linkedin.com/pub/larry-rouse-ii/

 

Taurus?

[silvrsvt]

Welcome to 2014.

 

 

I remember someone posting it...but your link is dead

 

I did a screen shot to protect the innocent.

[630land]

I heard from someone's cousin's girlfriend's hair stylist that there will be a "resurrection of GRWD", which was waiting for cheap gas to come back. We'll see the return of all the beloved models that "all of America is demanding", from Fairlane to LTD. And even a wood trim "Country Squire Brougham" ;-)

[BORG]

I heard from someone's cousin's girlfriend's hair stylist that there will be a "resurrection of GRWD", which was waiting for cheap gas to come back. We'll see the return of all the beloved models that "all of America is demanding", from Fairlane to LTD. And even a wood trim "Country Squire Brougham" ;-)

 

 

Pretty sure there is an old guy right now thinking this exact same thing. All Ford needs to do is go back to the 70s, the Zenith of the Malaise era.

Edited July 26, 2016 by BORG

[RichardJensen]

 

 

All Ford needs to do is go back to the 70s, the Zenith of the Malaise era.

 

OK.

 

Time for me to grab the steering wheel of this thread and send it right off into a ditch.

 

Hypothesis:

 

- the personal coupe market was predicated on cars being comparatively cheaper than they are today, and much less durable.

 

Reasoning:

 

- When cars cost less, as a percentage of annual income, were owned for a shorter period of time and were replaced more often, the overall practicality of the vehicle was less of a concern to certain demographics (e.g. guys in their 20s), and the demographics that preferred personal coupes was a higher percentage of the market.

 

- With the increase in the cost of cars vs. income (which has been largely offset by increased reliability, safety, fuel economy, features and quality), a smaller percentage of the populace is buying new cars, and that percentage has markedly different wants and needs from their vehicles.

 

Thus, while there may be unmet demand for personal cars in the secondary market, there is not enough demand in the primary market to create a supply of used 2 doors.

 

--

 

And, of course, Borg's comments made me think of that because of the popularity of gigantic and impractical two-doors during that decade. So many baby-boomers, fresh out of college, buying Thunderbirds and Monte Carlos and taking their wives and/or girlfriends to dimly lit restaurants with red lamp shades, red carpet, faux Spanish oak, fake (or occasionally real!) stones on the walls out front, etc. And then, some years later, minivans and trips to Burger King or Pizza Hut (where at least the traditions of dark wood, red carpet and overall dimness were upheld).

Edited July 26, 2016 by RichardJensen

[ehaase]

 

 

Pretty sure there is an old guy right now thinking this exact same thing. All Ford needs to do is go back to the 70s, the Zenith of the Malaise era.

I'm that old guy. I miss the days of LTD Landaus, Country Squires, Gran Torinos, Granada Ghias, etc.

[silvrsvt]

 

OK.

 

Time for me to grab the steering wheel of this thread and send it right off into a ditch.

 

Hypothesis:

 

- the personal coupe market was predicated on cars being comparatively cheaper than they are today, and much less durable.

 

Reasoning:

 

- When cars cost less, as a percentage of annual income, were owned for a shorter period of time and were replaced more often, the overall practicality of the vehicle was less of a concern to certain demographics (e.g. guys in their 20s), and the demographics that preferred personal coupes was a higher percentage of the market.

 

- With the increase in the cost of cars vs. income (which has been largely offset by increased reliability, safety, fuel economy, features and quality), a smaller percentage of the populace is buying new cars, and that percentage has markedly different wants and needs from their vehicles.

 

Thus, while there may be unmet demand for personal cars in the secondary market, there is not enough demand in the primary market to create a supply of used 2 doors.

 

--

 

And, of course, Borg's comments made me think of that because of the popularity of gigantic and impractical two-doors during that decade. So many baby-boomers, fresh out of college, buying Thunderbirds and Monte Carlos and taking their wives and/or girlfriends to dimly lit restaurants with red lamp shades, red carpet, faux Spanish oak, fake (or occasionally real!) stones on the walls out front, etc. And then, some years later, minivans and trips to Burger King or Pizza Hut (where at least the traditions of dark wood, red carpet and overall dimness were upheld).

 

Wow as a child of this era...thats pretty damn spot on...but my parents didn't have a 2 door coupe...they had a 1970 Pontiac Ventura (Mom didn't drive much and didn't need two cars), then a 1979 Ford Fiesta for my dad. We where a Ford household since then...then again my dad went to work for Ford that same year too The Ventura was replaced by a '82 Escort Wagon (holy underpowered cars...good way to be turned off by I4 automatic equipped cars) and my dad got a 1986 Escort GT as his "midlife crisis" car, which became my first car in the early to mid-1990s.

 

I didn't get my first "adult" car till I got my SHO LOL...but as life always makes it, I really don't need a sedan or a CUV anymore since my wife and I can't have kids the normal way.

[BORG]

I'm that old guy. I miss the days of LTD Landaus, Country Squires, Gran Torinos, Granada Ghias, etc.

 

 

My nostalgia is based in the 90s, which was the antithesis of the Malaise Era. My first car was a 1996 Taurus, I grew up on Thunderbirds and Mark VIIIs, I dreamed of having a Ford Probe and wanted my parents to get a Pontiac Transport. From the 70s/80s to the 90s, there has never been such a huge shift in automotive design and that's what originally excited me about the business. Now of course there is a complete change in the car's form factor, I never though the future would look like a Crossover.

[BORG]

 

OK.

 

Time for me to grab the steering wheel of this thread and send it right off into a ditch.

 

Hypothesis:

 

- the personal coupe market was predicated on cars being comparatively cheaper than they are today, and much less durable.

 

Reasoning:

 

- When cars cost less, as a percentage of annual income, were owned for a shorter period of time and were replaced more often, the overall practicality of the vehicle was less of a concern to certain demographics (e.g. guys in their 20s), and the demographics that preferred personal coupes was a higher percentage of the market.

 

- With the increase in the cost of cars vs. income (which has been largely offset by increased reliability, safety, fuel economy, features and quality), a smaller percentage of the populace is buying new cars, and that percentage has markedly different wants and needs from their vehicles.

 

Thus, while there may be unmet demand for personal cars in the secondary market, there is not enough demand in the primary market to create a supply of used 2 doors.

 

--

 

And, of course, Borg's comments made me think of that because of the popularity of gigantic and impractical two-doors during that decade. So many baby-boomers, fresh out of college, buying Thunderbirds and Monte Carlos and taking their wives and/or girlfriends to dimly lit restaurants with red lamp shades, red carpet, faux Spanish oak, fake (or occasionally real!) stones on the walls out front, etc. And then, some years later, minivans and trips to Burger King or Pizza Hut (where at least the traditions of dark wood, red carpet and overall dimness were upheld).

 

My baby-boomer parents were coupe buyers most of their lives until the 2000's when coupes effectively died out, so I never grew up with a family vehicle. Today that would be considered bad parenting, haha. But as you say, part of that is because they saw their cars as fashion items to be replaced often so style more than substance guided their purchasing decision. One of the reasons my Dad started buying Escort coupes is because cars suddenly grew more expensive and the 'personal coupes' he was use to buying in the 80's weren't as cheap in the 90s (which is one reason they died out as well). Eventually that gave way to trucks and SUVs for him, as well as my Mother.

 

In contrast that with my sister who has a family, her purchasing decision came down to both style and substance which is why she got a Ford Edge. And unlike my parents, her car purchase is seen as a long-term affair, she intends to have this car until it falls apart so it needs to grow with her family since it was such a significant investment and decision.

Edited July 27, 2016 by BORG

[akirby]

My parents were driving a poop brown 4 door 73 Maverick, a blue Nova station wagon that doubled as an emergency ambulance and an orange Hornet station wagon with plaid seats during my teenage years. My nostalgia is limited to my brother's 75 Ford F100 pickup.

[BORG]

One of my earliest memories is in the backseat of my Mom's poop brown Ford Pinto with baby poop brown vinyl seats. My Dad also had a 1980 Ford Thunderbird, it's amazing how much I remember when I was only 1 or 2 years old. The rest of my life in the 80's was Thunderbirds, 84 T-Bird and 85 T-Bird Turbo Coupe, and then an '89 Merkur XR4Ti. They started leasing cars in the 90's (a new thing back then) and went through allot more cars, my fondest and most nostalgia inducing is the 1998 Mark VIII LSC.

Edited July 27, 2016 by BORG

[ehaase]

 

.they had a 1970 Pontiac Ventura (Mom didn't drive much and didn't need two cars),

Was it the Nova based Ventura or the Catalina variant

[Biker16]

CD6 = the next LH platform.

[fuzzymoomoo]

CD6 = the next LH platform.

Key difference: Ford actually has the resources and wherewithal to keep upgrading it, whereas Chryco never really substantially improved upon LH until LX came out, and LX is still essentially new for 2005.