NotSure Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 I'm a new hire white collar and 6 months in I'm having serious difficulties picking up all the requirements for my desk. What does the company do with underperforming new hires? Can I expect to be moved, demoted, fired? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tooltime Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Join a union if you want protection............... ----> grievance procedure, protection from shitty bosses, seniority rights, good wages, benefits, bonuses etc........ just to name a few Without a union you your future looks grim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caustic Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 Join a union if you want protection............... ----> grievance procedure, protection from shitty bosses, seniority rights, good wages, benefits, bonuses etc........ just to name a few Without a union you your future looks grim Sounds like he would be a fine fit for C crew trim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGER66 Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 Tooltime, we're already in the uaw. Are you an official begging everyone to stay? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hee haw Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 I'm a new hire white collar and 6 months in I'm having serious difficulties picking up all the requirements for my desk. What does the company do with underperforming new hires? Can I expect to be moved, demoted, fired? You should be OK. You made 6 months without doing anything wrong, keep it up and you will get moved ahead of those who have screwed up, in short order you should be a plant manager. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tooltime Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 (edited) Tooltime, we're already in the uaw. Are you an official begging everyone to stay? The original poster stated (he/she) was white collar (salary). If salary they are not union and at will employees and Ford can fire them anytime. I simply stated since they are salary they may want to join a union so the can have the protections that we enjoy. Nothing more nothing less------- Edited January 9, 2016 by tooltime Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotSure Posted January 9, 2016 Author Share Posted January 9, 2016 I'm a new hire white collar and 6 months in I'm having serious difficulties picking up all the requirements for my desk. What does the company do with underperforming new hires? Can I expect to be moved, demoted, fired? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotSure Posted January 9, 2016 Author Share Posted January 9, 2016 Welp I appreciate your responses but none of you have helped in the slightest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDeal Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 Kind of a strange question to ask on this forum, I can see why nobody has an answer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pioneer Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 It was always my understanding that salaried are never fired, they are just promoted to get them out of the building to become a problem for somebody else to take care of. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decker Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 (edited) Welp I appreciate your responses but none of you have helped in the slightest "Typical" would be on the pre judgmental minds of many, so I will say that as a young and/or newly employed salaried member of the the Ford business, you seem to fall right in line with so many that have come off the street with whatever idea you had of the situation you were entering in on, just to be like so many others that get smacked right in the face or nut sack whatever applies, with reality. This ain`t Kansas anymore Toe-toe... If you are a "white collar"....? then you have much learning to do. Six months is what it is, six months. Just putting forth the question, makes one wonder about your GPA.(U of I or U of M.. alumni?) If you are at CAP, look around and learn the main technique for sliding up the ladder or just bullshiting your way through the next evaluation. Most rewarding techniques are lying about your degree, pointing the finger at everyone else`s faults, lying, throw as many fellow white collars under the bus as possible (with tears helps a lot), did I say lye? If all that fails.... ever try the dating game? One other thing Notsure you have a similar way of posting as one of our other near and dear members posting on this board.... Edited January 10, 2016 by Decker 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RougeWelder Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 I'm a new hire white collar and 6 months in I'm having serious difficulties picking up all the requirements for my desk. What does the company do with underperforming new hires? Can I expect to be moved, demoted, fired? Welp I appreciate your responses but none of you have helped in the slightest Admitting that you can not handle or understand your job requirements, plus asking/associating yourself in a helpless manner to us feeble, uneducated, and lazy hourly workers, you have put on display your inability to be intellectually superior to the ignorant minions you were appointed to manage. Using my 6th grade education and 21yrs at Ford, plus 12yrs experience outside the automotive sector, I have come to the conclusion that you will soon be promoted. Congratulations....I am sure that when it comes time for you to decide to promote an individual, you will make sure he is more ignorant than you so as your job will not be challenged.........and the ineptitude continues. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hee haw Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 I'm a new hire white collar and 6 months in I'm having serious difficulties picking up all the requirements for my desk. What does the company do with underperforming new hires? Can I expect to be moved, demoted, fired? I think I see your problem, thought the problem was you and not your desk. Make an appointment (mid morning or mid afternoon is best) to see one of your plants carpenters. They have all sorts of spare desk parts, most could build a new desk out of their parts pile. If you have authority to authorize overtime use it for this job and you will get to the top of the list quicker. In place of overtime a bottle might get you the same result. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theoldwizard Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 Retired white collar. This is from 7-8 years ago, but I doubt it has changed much. In the past, they have "dismissed" people who were under-performers. Not very often, but it has happened. Sit down with your immediate supervisor and talk to them. They are the ones who are going to do your performance review. I assume they are still doing "forced rankings" where you are judged against the co-workers in your department. A "Satisfactory" rating is your wake up call. An "Unsatisfactory" means you have one foot out the door. With an "Unsatisfactory" you will be given a list of specific assignment that you agree, in writing, will be completed in the next 90 days. If not you are out the door. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decker Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 At CAP, 7 or 8 years ago was an era that used an ingredient that is scarce if at all in place in most area`s of the management team here at CAP. This ingredient was replaced with making sure certain management team members got the position even with the complete absence of the ingredient. (movement of Zone Supervisor to MPS to LL6 to ME to Area Managers with little or no regard to the ingredient) Or the need to place employee`s into the management team and it was hoped that these employee`s would pick up the ingredient on their way. (Group Leaders to Zone Supervisors) Also the ingredient was most times completely over looked or spread so thin when the biggest expansion of the management team happened. (AWS <--- biggest underestimate of the ingredient ever) The higher seniority members of the team (still here, with the ingredient) are spread so thin they can`t do their daily tasks and teach at the same time. The lesser seniority members are either so belittled or undermined by their managers or trying to play a role that they never should have received, that they have little time to learn. So the ingredient is slowly floating away. Most likely oldwizard, if you`ve been gone for 7 or 8 years you would not recognize the methods of management, today. We have become diverse, we work at solving the harassment, (kinda) we make sure friends get the most favorable performance reviews (always) but, we can`t seem to find something that we just don`t have in the management team, "experience". Imagine an area manager with zero people skills or an M.E. that never supervised a trades group, much less sat in an engineering class. Nope oldwizard you`d be completely amazed at the method`s of management, today. I hear regularly.... "if you can manage in this department you can manage in any department"... our one measure for this mindset is the way everyday we continue to route the units in the ever growing circle. Sure miss the ingredient not brought to the game anymore. Miss those Youngs, McCranes, Ransom`s, Waldrons, and Rosenuts...etc. . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caustic Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 When I read the thread title I firmly believed this thread was about Nick Kotalis and how he works for his members. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hebitchmanslapper Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 Retired white collar. This is from 7-8 years ago, but I doubt it has changed much. In the past, they have "dismissed" people who were under-performers. Not very often, but it has happened. Sit down with your immediate supervisor and talk to them. They are the ones who are going to do your performance review. I assume they are still doing "forced rankings" where you are judged against the co-workers in your department. A "Satisfactory" rating is your wake up call. An "Unsatisfactory" means you have one foot out the door. With an "Unsatisfactory" you will be given a list of specific assignment that you agree, in writing, will be completed in the next 90 days. If not you are out the door. Nail on head..... Good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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