silvrsvt Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 http://www.netcarshow.com/honda/2016-civic_coupe/800x600/wallpaper_01.htm I like it, but I don't like it at the same time? It looks like a Colbat coupe from some some angles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-150 Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 I see a bit of Hyundai Tiburon rehash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 It's too hunchback for my liking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Tiburon, Cobolt, 2nd generation Fusion front and Mazda 3 / MX-3(?). I have no problem with it but I think Honda should get back into making hatchbacks instead of C - Segment coupes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grbeck Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 There is supposed to be a hatchback version of this generation Civic for North American markets. It will debut next year, if I recall correctly. The "non-muscle/pony car" coupe market is dwindling, but Honda mops up what's left of it with the Accord and Civic coupe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 I thought they discontinued the Accord Coupe. Guess not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 I thought they discontinued the Accord Coupe. Guess not. No, I see a new one running around every once and a while, but not many of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Maybe i was thinking about the Altima coupe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Maybe i was thinking about the Altima coupe. Yes, that one was dropped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
630land Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 This is designed for 'bait and switch'. Young guys will come in to look at it, and then get upsold to an SUV. "For a little more a month, you can get a Honda truck!" Women today think of SUV's as 'normal cars' and will want a guy with one, and see a coupe owner as a 'player'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bzcat Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 I always mystified by the design decision to make something like this a coupe which means the trunk opening is too shallow and it renders the space inaccessible and useless. A hatchback opening (e.g. like Scion tC) would be a lot more practical without sacrificing the styling. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolt in blue Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 My best friend drives a tC. Personally, I think a lot of the car feels cheap, but it is more functional than most sedans because of the hatch. It doesn't surprise me that there are so few coupes left being made. The only kind of coupe I'd ever consider is a performance car, and even there I'd rather have a hatch or sedan. The Civic looks like it could be a hatch - don't know why they didn't do it right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 I always mystified by the design decision to make something like this a coupe which means the trunk opening is too shallow and it renders the space inaccessible and useless. A hatchback opening (e.g. like Scion tC) would be a lot more practical without sacrificing the styling. I thought the same thing about the Focus sedan, but I see tons of them. No doubt due to the lower cost. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
630land Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 The Civic coupe is still for sale for image, because the aging base of former 1990's Si owners driving CR-V's and Accords wants to still feel "young". If they dropped the coupe, all these fans would scream 'bloody murder', even if no one is buying these throwbacks to another time. Rarely see any new ones, only on the lots collecting dust. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 The Civic coupe is still for sale for image, because the aging base of former 1990's Si owners driving CR-V's and Accords wants to still feel "young". If they dropped the coupe, all these fans would scream 'bloody murder', even if no one is buying these throwbacks to another time. Rarely see any new ones, only on the lots collecting dust. But a 2 door hatchback would serve the same purpose. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 But a 2 door hatchback would serve the same purpose. The styling today can make the old-school hatchback look like a coupe except it's much more practical. Even if it's a (dare I say it?) 3-dr. I agree there is former owners who are fans of Si. Again, I counter there's fans of the hatchbacks who moved to coupes because Honda. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
630land Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 I meant to say that I agree the coupe should have a hatch, don't know why Honda didn't. I don't see the plain LX or EX coupes selling ever as good as they used to. The Si will do well since it has a loyal following. But the 5 door hatch coming could shake things up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 I meant to say that I agree the coupe should have a hatch, don't know why Honda didn't. I don't see the plain LX or EX coupes selling ever as good as they used to. The Si will do well since it has a loyal following. But the 5 door hatch coming could shake things up. I can answer the why from reading the first gen coupe in the 90's. I think it was M/T and I don't have the link. Honda's rationale at the time was customers didn't need them or buy them. I can't remember the exact wording but it struck me back then as a company making a decision that they were getting out of the compact hatchback business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
630land Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 Ah, there was a backlash against hatches in the 90's, but times changed. I predict this generation of Civic will be the last coupe with trunk. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grbeck Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 I can answer the why from reading the first gen coupe in the 90's. I think it was M/T and I don't have the link. Honda's rationale at the time was customers didn't need them or buy them. I can't remember the exact wording but it struck me back then as a company making a decision that they were getting out of the compact hatchback business. Once the Civic coupe debuted, it seemed as though only diehard hatchback lovers and tightwads bought the hatchback. If I recall correctly, the coupe was more expensive than the hatchback, but Honda had no problem moving many more coupes than hatchbacks. In the early 1990s, subcompact and compact hatchbacks were viewed as "down market" cars for cheapskates. Coupes had a more "premium" image in those classes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 (edited) Once the Civic coupe debuted, it seemed as though only diehard hatchback lovers and tightwads bought the hatchback. If I recall correctly, the coupe was more expensive than the hatchback, but Honda had no problem moving many more coupes than hatchbacks. In the early 1990s, subcompact and compact hatchbacks were viewed as "down market" cars for cheapskates. Coupes had a more "premium" image in those classes. I never quite understood that. Looking at pricing historically, the sedans and coupes were cheaper than hatchbacks. For example the 2005-09 Focus ZX3/5 compared to the ZX4. That said, I'd argue Honda scored a coup on reducing manufacturing costs and convinced their customers they didn't need rear disc breaks and hatchbacks. Edited November 20, 2015 by Hugh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
630land Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 It's been 20 years since this notion that a coupe is "better" than a hatch, time to move on. Hardly see any later Civic coupes compared to ages ago. And, i think this new one will just sit on lots collecting dust, while the Si version will sell OK with fans. The 90's are old news, don't know why some still think of them as "current"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grbeck Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 (edited) According to a Honda spokesperson, between 10-15 percent of all Civics sold in the U.S. are coupes. Total Civic sales in 2013 and 2014 were 336,180 and 325,981, respectively. If we take the low figure given the Honda spokesperson - 10 percent - that means Honda sells about 32,000 coupes annually in the U.S. That's not a huge amount, but it's enough to make it worthwhile for Honda to offer a coupe that shares a basic platform and many components with the sedan. Edited November 23, 2015 by grbeck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
630land Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 I think when the new Civic hatch comes back, the small trunk coupes will fade away quietly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
probowler Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 It's too hunchback for my liking. Agreed, lame hatchback style with none of the practically Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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