segel10 Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 Have a 2016 F250 SRW 4x4 CC - Looking at the GAWR and Payload numbers on the Ford spec site vs what is on the door and what is shown on the spec sheet for the F350. Tried looking up the part numbers and the ones shown for the a axle and springs for the F250 and F350 are the same. But, on the door panel of my F250 the rear axle for my truck is listed as 6100 lbs, but the spec sheet shows 6290 and the F350 spec sheet shows 7180, but the part numbers are the same. Also, the payload on the door is 1919 lbs, but the F250 spec sheet shows 3200 and the F350 spec sheet show 3560 - 4260 lbs, again the same part number for the rear springs. So, I am confused as to how the same part numbers on the F250 vs F350 can give you such different payloads. And, how the same axle on the F250 and F350 can provide such different GAWR numbers. I this nothing more than the advertised GVWR is different for the two trucks and they adjust the door numbers to the advertised GVWR even though they are the same parts/truck??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramrod79 Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 Is your truck a diesel and does your 250 have the aux. springs to get that low of a payload? They also have different weight ratings so you can register them at different gvwr's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 Could be different rated tires. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
segel10 Posted November 11, 2015 Author Share Posted November 11, 2015 Yes, the 250 is a diesel and it has the camper package. Tires are fine for the higher weights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramrod79 Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 My 2011 250 has the camper package as well but with the 6.2, payload is 2780lbs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 A payload of 1919 lbs. seems very low for a 2016. My '08 diesel with the 20" wheels has 1999, and I know they have increased since then. Could you post a picture of the sticker on your door panel? The F250 and F350 are essentially the same truck, with the F250 limited for those desiring lower ratings. That's why I have no fear of slightly overloading my F250. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
segel10 Posted November 11, 2015 Author Share Posted November 11, 2015 I think from what I have read, the number on the attached is more based on the F250 being identified as 10,000 GVWR, and not on the capability provided by the parts. The tires are rated at 3640 each @ 80psi. (7280 lbs total for rear axle). I have attached to picture of the placard that your requested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 I think from what I have read, the number on the attached is more based on the F250 being identified as 10,000 GVWR, and not on the capability provided by the parts. You are absolutely correct. Still, I find that 1919 to be extremely low. Strange... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rblair38 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 I belive it is becasue of the diesel. That engine is over 1000 lbs and takes away for the payload. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blwnsmoke Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 (edited) You are absolutely correct. Still, I find that 1919 to be extremely low. Strange... 1919 isn't extremely low for a F250. SD diesels weight in around 8,200lbs +/- depending on configuration. With a 10,000lbs GVWR of a F250 - 1,919 means his truck weighs in at 8,081 pounds which is right in the ball park. My F350 Diesel CC Platinum has a 11,500 rating which if you subtract my sticker of 3,239lbs which puts my truck weighing at 8,261 a difference of 180 pounds between mine and Segel10's truck. 180lbs is quite easy to option in or out with a truck. And as stated above, if you option the 6.2 gas instead, you can be over 3,000lbs payload. That is the reason it is worth the $1,000 or so to go from a F250 to F350 because of the payload rating difference. Even with the F350, you can downgrade the payload with 10k, 11,4k and 11,5k options so I really don't know why Ford even makes an F250. Edited December 19, 2015 by blwnsmoke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 Well I was comparing to my '08. I thought the payload had been increased and that the 6.7 weighed less than the 6.4. My truck has 1999 lbs and is fairly loaded so I thought his would have at least a couple hundred lbs more. With my fifth wheel hooked up, I would say I am over the limit once I get firewood and family in the truck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mettech Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 2016 f250, 6.2l, 8 ft bed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 See that's more along the lines of what I was thinking. Subtract 600 +/- lbs for the diesel and you are still left with a good amount of payload. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hindy Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 Blwnsmoke brings me to a question I have wanted to ask for a long time. - Why would there be options to downgrade an F-350 payload to 10k, 11,4k and 11,5k? - Does it have to do with of insurance, registration, and license? - Why wouldn't someone just opt for the 10K package for cost reasons? Thanks in advance! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 Blwnsmoke brings me to a question I have wanted to ask for a long time. - Why would there be options to downgrade an F-350 payload to 10k, 11,4k and 11,5k? - Does it have to do with of insurance, registration, and license? - Why wouldn't someone just opt for the 10K package for cost reasons? Thanks in advance! Insurance, registration, license (both vehicle and operator) are all factors. Some areas charge more based on payload, or require a specialized license. Downgrading the payload is a way to get around that, even though the truck is exactly the same. You don't opt for the 10k package if you need more than that because you would technically be illegal if you are over the GVWR of the truck. Maybe not illegal, but if you were in an accident and you were over the GVWR of your truck, you could be held liable and pay for it for the rest of your life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hindy Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 Great explanation fordmantpw! Thank you... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blwnsmoke Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 Blwnsmoke brings me to a question I have wanted to ask for a long time. - Why would there be options to downgrade an F-350 payload to 10k, 11,4k and 11,5k? - Does it have to do with of insurance, registration, and license? - Why wouldn't someone just opt for the 10K package for cost reasons? Thanks in advance! Exactly what Fordman stated. For example, anything over 10k GVWR in California requires the vehicle to be registered with DOT stickers and those stickers must be posted on the truck and requires the vehicle to follow all DOT requirements/laws. So in CA, people will choose the 10k option to get around that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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