ANTAUS Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 https://media.ford.com/content/fordmedia/fna/us/en/news/2015/10/01/september2015sales.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 The F-Series is back, selling at an 800k+/year clip in September. Wow! The poor Flex just keeps nose-diving. Taurus isn't much better. Focus drop would be expected due to low gas prices, and the new Expedition needs to hurry the heck up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 Fiesta up big? Incentives? That's a huge jump especially with low fuel prices. New trucks, utilities and mustang are paying off big. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 Taurus isn't much better. Dealers that want Tauruses aren't getting them. A distinct part of the Taurus sales story is that Ford is sacrificing Taurus volume for Explorer volume Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 (edited) Dealers that want Tauruses aren't getting them. A distinct part of the Taurus sales story is that Ford is sacrificing Taurus volume for Explorer volume Understood, and you can't blame them. It's great to be able to flex volume like that, but it sucks to turn customers away because you can't produce enough. Gotta wonder if that's the same story with the PI and PIU, or is demand truly dropping there. Edited October 1, 2015 by fordmantpw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 Charts! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 Dealers that want Tauruses aren't getting them. A distinct part of the Taurus sales story is that Ford is sacrificing Taurus volume for Explorer volume I was about to ask if we really knew whether that was true nationally or if it was just limited to a few dealers, but I just checked my local large dealer and they have 4 showing on the website and I'm sure at least 1 or 2 of those are in transit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpvbs Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 F Series is back to outselling Silverado and Sierra combined. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 I guess the F-series won't lose its sales title this year, which seems to be a fear every major change over... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 Nice to see a solid, positive numbers at Lincoln for a change.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bzcat Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 Focus is really a concern... the sales decline is accelerating. I think Ford needs to give it a 2nd update next year - 1.5 Ecoboost and 6F35 needs to be fast tracked before sales completely collapses. There are all-new Civic, Elantra, and Cruze coming next year - the uncompetitive drivetrain is really going to give Focus a rough time in the market in 2016 and beyond if Ford doesn't address it ASAP. Escape is showing really good strength ahead of mid cycle refresh, which is a good sign. I'm not sure what is going on with Fiesta... maybe last year the supply was really low in September? The YTD number is flat... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 Wasn't Ford running three shifts at MAP this time last year? If so, the decline could very well be profit-taking in the form of lower incentives that can accompany a decrease in production costs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerLS Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 Look at the jump on the Transit. I mean, it's almost like they weren't even making them last year... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev-Mo Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 Focus is really a concern... the sales decline is accelerating. I think Ford needs to give it a 2nd update next year - 1.5 Ecoboost and 6F35 needs to be fast tracked before sales completely collapses. There are all-new Civic, Elantra, and Cruze coming next year - the uncompetitive drivetrain is really going to give Focus a rough time in the market in 2016 and beyond if Ford doesn't address it ASAP. Escape is showing really good strength ahead of mid cycle refresh, which is a good sign. I'm not sure what is going on with Fiesta... maybe last year the supply was really low in September? The YTD number is flat... My co-worker, looking to buy a car for his daughter commented to me - "..we both like the Ford Focus, but they have transmission problems, so we will pass." Ah - the age of Google! This is evidence that the Focus is being passed over by the non-car lover crowd (Corolla, Civic) as a troublesome vehicle. I had a Focus rental in August - loved it. My picky wife even commented how nice it was for small car. I could feel the dry clutch - but ti didn't bother me a bit since I knew what it was. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 But aren't sales of most C sedans and hatchbacks also down? It's not like the Focus is declining while the rest are increasing (is it?). Agree they need to make the tranny change soon but it's not the end of the world. Daughter's 2012 seems to be shuddering now - as soon as it gets bad enough that the dealer can reproduce it I'll take it in for replacement. At least they extended the warranty to 7/100. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 F Series is back to outselling Silverado and Sierra combined. Nope, not yet. http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2015/10/best-selling-pickup-trucks-september-2015.html 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 (edited) But aren't sales of most C sedans and hatchbacks also down? It's not like the Focus is declining while the rest are increasing (is it?). Agree they need to make the tranny change soon but it's not the end of the world. Daughter's 2012 seems to be shuddering now - as soon as it gets bad enough that the dealer can reproduce it I'll take it in for replacement. At least they extended the warranty to 7/100. or, you know, get a manual next time and avoid all of that hassle Edited October 1, 2015 by fuzzymoomoo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerLS Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 Nope, not yet. http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2015/10/best-selling-pickup-trucks-september-2015.html The interesting thing to me is that Ford really didn't lose any appreciable momentum in the changeover. When Chebbie did their changeover, they stumbled so hard out of the gate that they damn near got caught by Dodge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpvbs Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 Nope, not yet. http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2015/10/best-selling-pickup-trucks-september-2015.html Oops. I see I used the 2014 figures in my calculations. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 or, you know, get a manual next time and avoid all of that hassle What part of "Daughter" did you not understand.............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 The interesting thing to me is that Ford really didn't lose any appreciable momentum in the changeover. When Chebbie did their changeover, they stumbled so hard out of the gate that they damn near got caught by Dodge. I don't think it was the changeover, per se, as much as it was the fact that GM tried to sell their trucks without huge incentives. They found out that nobody wants to buy a Silererra without $5k+ in cash on the hood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 What part of "Daughter" did you not understand.............. i got that part! that doesn't mean she can't be taught the art of driving a manual! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 i got that part! that doesn't mean she can't be taught the art of driving a manual! Want to bet? And it has nothing to do with gender. I can't even get her to use the auto climate control on her Focus. She is the epitome of the strong-willed child. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 Want to bet? And it has nothing to do with gender. I can't even get her to use the auto climate control on her Focus. She is the epitome of the strong-willed child. Now see, you didn't say that! My next move was to point out that my now wife had to teach me how to drive my car when I bought it. She still rubs that in my face every chance she gets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coupe3w Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 Now see, you didn't say that! My next move was to point out that my now wife had to teach me how to drive my car when I bought it. She still rubs that in my face every chance she gets. That is so sad........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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