chassisgroupleader Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Greed (Latin, avaritia), also known as avarice, cupidity, or covetousness, is the inordinate desire to possess wealth, goods, or objects of abstract value with the intention to keep it for one's self, far beyond the dictates of basic survival and comfort. It is applied to a markedly high desire for and pursuit of wealth, status, and power. As secular psychological concept, greed is, similarly, an inordinate desire to acquire or possess more than one needs. The degree of inordinance is related to the inability to control the reformulation of "wants" once desired "needs" are eliminated. Erich Fromm described greed as "a bottomless pit which exhausts the person in an endless effort to satisfy the need without ever reaching satisfaction." It is typically used to criticize those who seek excessive material wealth, although it may apply to the need to feel more excessively moral, social, or otherwise better than someone else. The purpose for greed, and any actions associated with it, is possibly to deprive others of potential means (perhaps, of basic survival and comfort) or future opportunities accordingly, or to obstruct them therefrom, as a measure of enhanced discretion via majority belongings-having and majority competitive advantage, thus insidious and tyrannical or otherwise having negative connotation. Alternately, the purpose could be defense or counteraction from such dangerous, potential leverage in matters of questionable agreeability. A consequence of greedy activity may be inability to sustain any of the costs or burdens associated with that which has been or is being accumulated, leading to a backfire or destruction, whether of self or more generally. So, the level of "inordinance" of greed pertains to the amount of vanity, malice or burden associated with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlecountry Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Greed= 2nd Tier employees 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tier2 Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 "The purpose for greed, and any actions associated with it, is possibly to deprive others of potential means (perhaps, of basic survival and comfort) or future opportunities." Haha....this right here sums up Tier 1's thinking that they deserve things ahead of Tier 2's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tier2 Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 "The purpose for greed, and any actions associated with it, is possibly to deprive others of potential means (perhaps, of basic survival and comfort) or future opportunities." Haha....this right here sums up Tier 1's thinking that they deserve things ahead of Tier 2's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 ^ I swear this guy doesn't represent the majority of the Tier 2 folks 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tier2 Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 I represent more than you think. I'm just not afraid to voice it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tier2 Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Voting yes in order to get a 3% raise while knowing at the same time it eliminates Tier 2's opportunity to become Tier 1....is greed according to the definition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rzr fan Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Tier 2,you are the problem 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tier2 Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Tier 2,you are the problem You care to expand on that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 I represent more than you think. I'm just not afraid to voice it. More than I think? Maybe Still not the majority 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTP'er Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Chucky is that you? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caustic Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Voting yes in order to get a 3% raise while knowing at the same time it eliminates Tier 2's opportunity to become Tier 1....is greed according to the definition. You're an idiot. I'd rather us tier 2 workers get bumped up to that new pay scale than sit back and wait for a cap to be met and still be capped out at under 20 an hour. If Tier 1 voted that in zi would be grateful. Tier2 you seriously need to go back to stocking shelves, flipping burgers, or whatever crap job you had before the plant. It is what you deserve for the rest of your life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tier2 Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 You're an idiot. I'd rather us tier 2 workers get bumped up to that new pay scale than sit back and wait for a cap to be met and still be capped out at under 20 an hour. If Tier 1 voted that in zi would be grateful. Tier2 you seriously need to go back to stocking shelves, flipping burgers, or whatever crap job you had before the plant. It is what you deserve for the rest of your life. We could get bumped up to that scale if Tier 1 would stay at $28. Equal pay for equal work is what the UAW was built upon. Sorry you can't comprehend that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caustic Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 We could get bumped up to that scale if Tier 1 would stay at $28. Equal pay for equal work is what the UAW was built upon. Sorry you can't comprehend that. Really? If they stay at 28 for 16 years instead of the 12 they are already at? Your mother should have swallowed. Something for everyone, period. No one should get left out this contract, including tier 1. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tier2 Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Really? If they stay at 28 for 16 years instead of the 12 they are already at? Your mother should have swallowed. Something for everyone, period. No one should get left out this contract, including tier 1. You're anti union period. Your dad should've put it in your moms ass instead. Prick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caustic Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 You're anti union period. Your dad should've put it in your moms ass instead. Prick. Die in a fire. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tier2 Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Die in a fire. U mad bro? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caustic Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 U mad bro? Sucked growing up in a single parent household didn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niteeyes Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 This tier2 guy is the reason I will vote for any contract that screws him. worst example of a new employee in the history of Ford motor co. I would add a d to the fire if I could. in a heart beat. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tier2 Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 This tier2 guy is the reason I will vote for any contract that screws him. worst example of a new employee in the history of Ford motor co. I would add a d to the fire if I could. in a heart beat. Of course you would, you are a greedy Tier 1. You would vote yes to anything that gets you a raise now. Even if it means screwing future brothers and sisters. Just remember somebody before you fought for what you got now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niteeyes Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 And now your fighting to take from me and give to you. That's a big no vote from me. After reading all your post; I can only hope nothing good comes your way and I hope your the last tier2 to make it to tier1, say like in about 10yrs, That would get my vote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tier2 Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 (edited) I've never once said you should lose anything. How is that taking from you? If you have been paying attention, you would know that no Tier 2 will ever make it to Tier 1. Edited September 24, 2015 by Tier2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niteeyes Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Think of it this way, When all of us tier1 retire, you will all be the new tier1. Shouldn't take more than another 20-25 yrs. good luck with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caustic Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Of course you would, you are a greedy Tier 1. You would vote yes to anything that gets you a raise now. Even if it means screwing future brothers and sisters. Just remember somebody before you fought for what you got now. Will someone just ban this fool already? If getting your ass up to 25 an hour is getting screwed you should just be put out of your misery now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERDEMOCRAT Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Why is everyone like so mad at this guy and shit? Tier2 is just stating his mind... I think it's kinda of like cool and shit.. Maybe he can come over and like Share with me? I work at map and all way looking around for some new guy.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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