jpd80 Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Power that occurs under boost. Which is my point on the 1.0. That's a small engine meaning it will spool often in regular driving. If that was the case, every Ecoboost engine would be thirstier than the larger NA engine it replaces. Under certain circumstances, the Ecoboost engines do give added economy as well as extra power but I suspect the geometric power delivery is too easy to tip in and use... Bottom line, buyer expectations have to match fuel economy and performance, I think the international 1.5 EB Focus is a better combination all around. Most US drivers would be a little disappointed with the 1.0 EB Focus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-150 Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 Bottom line, buyer expectations have to match fuel economy and performance, I think the international 1.5 EB Focus is a better combination all around. Most US drivers would be a little disappointed with the 1.0 EB Focus. That's my point. How does a 3 cyl 1.0 engine give any reasonable performance in regular driving without constant spooling? In lab tests it's light throttle and easy driving that is not reflective of the real world. This we already know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 (edited) That's my point. How does a 3 cyl 1.0 engine give any reasonable performance in regular driving without constant spooling? In lab tests it's light throttle and easy driving that is not reflective of the real world. This we already know. The answer is in the amount of "spooling" or degree of boost and enrichment applied. Actually find that the official figures are in themselves very telling: City/Combined/Highway 1.0EB Manual.........29/33/40 2.0 DI Manual..........26/30/36 2.0 DI Powershift......26/30/38 Now, if you're prepared to accept those figures at face value, then in regular driving, there's not that much difference. I suspect is when the cars are in light cruise steady state on the freeway when economy goes up another 4-5 mpg As with most incredible economy numbers these day, unless you light pedal the cars everywhere, forget it. Edited October 5, 2015 by jpd80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-150 Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 There we go. Quoting numbers from a government test. Again, I ask how much a 1.0 will move a car when surrounded by 250+ hp cars on all sides. There is a minimum amount of acceleration required in most cities to not get yourself run off the road. Great engine for a Fiesta. Not a Focus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKII Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 There we go. Quoting numbers from a government test. Again, I ask how much a 1.0 will move a car when surrounded by 250+ hp cars on all sides. There is a minimum amount of acceleration required in most cities to not get yourself run off the road. Great engine for a Fiesta. Not a Focus. Have you test drove a Focus 1.0L EcoBoost? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted October 6, 2015 Author Share Posted October 6, 2015 There we go. Quoting numbers from a government test. Again, I ask how much a 1.0 will move a car when surrounded by 250+ hp cars on all sides. There is a minimum amount of acceleration required in most cities to not get yourself run off the road. Great engine for a Fiesta. Not a Focus. Test drive one, I guarantee you will be pleasantly surprised. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
92merc Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 My parents 2008 Focus has 136 ft/lbs of torque, 2600lb vehicle. The new 1.0 EB has 125, for about 3000lb curb weight. Probably noticeable, but it will move just fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 My parents 2008 Focus has 136 ft/lbs of torque, 2600lb vehicle. The new 1.0 EB has 125, for about 3000lb curb weight. Probably noticeable, but it will move just fine. The 1.0 EB likely has a much flatter torque curve starting at a much lower RPM too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted October 6, 2015 Author Share Posted October 6, 2015 My parents 2008 Focus has 136 ft/lbs of torque, 2600lb vehicle. The new 1.0 EB has 125, for about 3000lb curb weight. Probably noticeable, but it will move just fine. Owning a 2008 Focus, 2015 2.0 Focus and having test driven the 1.0EB, I can tell you from personal experience that you don't even notice. Downshift the 1.0 from 6th to 3rd and it really gives you a good kick in the pants. We were seriously considering the 1.0 had it not been for the decided lack of features we wanted. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 (edited) There we go. Quoting numbers from a government test. Again, I ask how much a 1.0 will move a car when surrounded by 250+ hp cars on all sides. There is a minimum amount of acceleration required in most cities to not get yourself run off the road. Great engine for a Fiesta. Not a Focus. In other markets, the 1.0 EB actually replaces the 1.6 TiVCT, Having driven the two, I'd take the 1.0 EB over a 1.5 TiVCT any day. And yeah, it keeps up fine in the traffic. Edited October 8, 2015 by jpd80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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