Deanh Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 @akirby...depends on what ones idea of "good" is....FWD SEL loaded 1500 down 3 years based at a few hundred over inv approx. 400 plus tax 15000 miles....funny though Ford is sendin a LOT of AWD Edges....big discount packages on them as well....cleaning out stockpiled AWD equip?.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
630land Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 Gas is cheap and buyers are buying what was out of budget before, so sedans are piling up. Yeah, I'm not a fan of SUV's, but it's a free country, can't make Focus Station wagons mandatory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bzcat Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 @akirby...depends on what ones idea of "good" is....FWD SEL loaded 1500 down 3 years based at a few hundred over inv approx. 400 plus tax 15000 miles....funny though Ford is sendin a LOT of AWD Edges....big discount packages on them as well....cleaning out stockpiled AWD equip?.... Probably a ploy to boost average transaction price during the launch period. Lots of car companies do the same... this way they will have something good to say during the next quarterly earnings call. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerLS Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 Maybe an overstock of certain models? @atomcat...its LITERALLY the only car we have a good supply of.... Hmmm..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 Deanh, you're often citing a shortage of product linked to transport issues. Is a plant in California justified to improve supply there - I'm thinking something like NUMMI that builds a few different types from parts shipped in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aneekr Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 Is a plant in California justified to improve supply there - I'm thinking something like NUMMI that builds a few different types from parts shipped in. Unless the plant is operated by Tesla Motors, there's no economic justification for a new mass production automobile assembly plant in the U.S. state of California. Northern Mexico (Sonora, Baja California, Chihuahua, Coahuila) serves the market more effectively. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pioneer Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 Deanh, you're often citing a shortage of product linked to transport issues. Is a plant in California justified to improve supply there - I'm thinking something like NUMMI that builds a few different types from parts shipped in. Too expensive to assemble there. Too far out of the supply chain. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 JPD, Pioneer is on the money...to conduct a business in Ca is wrought with outrageous expense, crazy taxes and exceedingly stringent AQMD requirements....I know a LOT of business moving their business's to Nevada for the very reasons outlined.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harley Lover Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 Mulally is gone, its Fields going back to the (lazy marketing) old ways IMO. Nope, I think more blame might go to: Still not sure why they brought him on board. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blazerdude20 Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 Too expensive to assemble there. Too far out of the supply chain. Is it too far out of the supply chain from the Mexican plants? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 (edited) Nope, I think more blame might go to: Still not sure why they brought him on board. He does not look like a happy man. Though he's probably still sore because George took Lorraine to the Enchantment Under the Sea dance and decked him in the face. Edited September 4, 2015 by Intrepidatious 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackHorse Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 He does not look like a happy man. Though he's probably still sore because George took Lorraine to the Enchantment Under the Sea dance and decked him in the face. That's not funny butthead. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 JPD, Pioneer is on the money...to conduct a business in Ca is wrought with outrageous expense, crazy taxes and exceedingly stringent AQMD requirements....I know a LOT of business moving their business's to Nevada for the very reasons outlined.... So what's the solution to improving transportation of vehicles to California, is there a way of securing more rail capacity? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
02MustangGT Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 @jpd. I'm thinking Ford sells plenty of vehicles in California or they would build assembly plants and/or modifty transportation routes to improve inventory out west. Seriously, Ford has been in business for 112 years. Don't you think they have this vehicle allocation figured out by now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 (edited) @jpd. I'm thinking Ford sells plenty of vehicles in California or they would build assembly plants and/or modifty transportation routes to improve inventory out west. Seriously, Ford has been in business for 112 years. Don't you think they have this vehicle allocation figured out by now? According to Deanh who works at a Cal Ford Dealership, no. Read his posts and you'll see they have shortages of stock in everything except Fusion.. It is a big issue for them because of the growing popularity. Edited September 5, 2015 by jpd80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
02MustangGT Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 One dealer in California complaining about lack of inventory does not equal shortage of Ford vehicles at dealerships in California. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 (edited) One dealer in California complaining about lack of inventory does not equal shortage of Ford vehicles at dealerships in California. True, but I'm sure that deanh will respond to your post, the issue is transportation logistics to all dealers in Western states, apparently Ford is not alone with having real issues with the limited booking space on trains,..... Edited September 5, 2015 by jpd80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerLS Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 True, but I'm sure that deanh will respond to your post, the issue is transportation logistics to all dealers in Western states, apparently Ford is not alone with having real issues with the limited booking space on trains,..... There has been a rail transport jam in the west, in particular, because the oil companies in Canada, Wyoming, etc, have been paying top dollar for rail transport due to the lack of pipeline carrying capacity. Kind of ironic that they've been starving the supply lines of products that consume their product... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerLS Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 (edited) So what's the solution to improving transportation of vehicles to California, is there a way of securing more rail capacity? Basically, they need to outbid the oil companies, hope that pipeline capacity gets increased, or pray for oil prices to go and stay low. Edited September 5, 2015 by SoonerLS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 Good to see Expedition sales increased again, looks like market is recovering after Texas floods. Fingers crossed that sales keep building.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-bird Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 Basically, they need to outbid the oil companies, hope that pipeline capacity gets increased, or pray for oil prices to go and stay low. Blows me away that people seem to be so against pipelines yet dont here much about oil in trains. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aneekr Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 Blows me away that people seem to be so against pipelines yet dont here much about oil in trains. Oh, people are well aware of crude oil transport via rail. Especially when those trains derail and result in evacuations of populated areas in close proximity, e.g., Heimdal, North Dakota earlier this year: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted September 5, 2015 Author Share Posted September 5, 2015 But you never hear any protests about that, only against the pipelines. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edstock Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 But you never hear any protests about that, only against the pipelines. It's a mainstream media thing, selective coverage; progressive web news sites, not so much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-bird Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 47 people killed in Quebec incident. Lots of call for regulation changes but nothing about alternatives. Pipelines are very cost effective and very heavily regulated. They have incidents as do other industries however in my opinion the media blows things way out of proportion on size and frequency. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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