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So how bout them 2nd quarter profits.


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There response to the earnings will be if we give raises to the employees and do away with 2nd Tier they won't be making a profit and the UAW will tell us if we want to keep our jobs it's better if we just leave things the way they are now!

Stiff upper lip "little country" and by the way I have been on strike before and if there is a strike what will determine how much "fun" it is, is did we WIN!
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Stiff upper lip "little country" and by the way I have been on strike before and if there is a strike what will determine how much "fun" it is, is did we WIN!

You hit that nail on the head fatso, I too walked the line (without Johnny Cash) and we did win.

 

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All you people do is talk strike. Do it and see how many years and raises it will take you to recover the money you will loose. Basic mathematics hope you are ready because most of you big talkers never been there?

Too many variables in your statement to draw a conclusion about how long it will take to recover from a strike but stop being so selfish.Past workers went on strike to make it a better place for all of us to work!
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Fats you're a idiot why don't you just follow the great international UAW. It's about economics and being smart enough to see through all the smoke and mirrors. If you really think that it's such a bad place to work take your no skill having ass to McDonald's or golden corral wake up and see what you really have to offer a employer with out having a union to run interference for you. Unless you're Skilled trades and went through a real apprenticeship not one of the UAW everybody gets a journeymens card apprenticeship you really have nothing to offer other than your ability to consume space.

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From your post can it be concluded that you believe there are no true skilled trades in any of the Ford facilities?

If this is the conclusion, what experience and or background do you base your statements?

Just a suggestion jumper, learn the fundamentals before you start swinging the bat....

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Just an example of how divided and selfish the current UAW membership is.We gotta get some concessions back or I say STRIKE!Go into negotiations with determination.The key to any strike is, what hardship would withdrawing your labor place upon the company.I think we could win and we gotta stop defeating each other first!

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I wonder when this mis fortune will be calculated against the hourly profit sharing?
There is a vast sea of units labeled like this at a holding lot here in paradise....

Thousands and Thousands...of labeled units.

"Attention !!!! Attention !!!!"
Ship Vechile To Auction Only
Do Not Ship To Destination Dealer
This vehicle has been categorized for sale as a used product.
All parties involved are subject to consumer litigation if this vehicle is handled for sale as a new unit.
Carrier, contact damage vehicle operations if there is a question about where to ship this unit.

A "one time charge" or "act of G-d" ? Either way it will hit Fords bottom line. You know who's pockets are at that bottom line???

 

Never seen so many units with hail damage.

Decker

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people(ahem) should not use the S word too callously , cause it should be the absolute last option, both sides general lose, one side usually loses less, but its not good either way

 

that being said, there wont be a strike. and we will share in the companys profit. UAW is and should be a 'partner' to ford/gm/fca when company does well, so should we, and also vice versa. the strong German unions should be seen a good model here.

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Cant even use the S-word?During a contract year?Passive-Aggression is insincere and not what is needed to achieve a fair contract.Cant even use the S-word,Wow! Back to the many issues.What may be a solution to the two-tier problem for hourly is incremental pay increases until tier one is reached but also their must be a ratio between the two tiers.This ratio could be achieved by offering the first tier buyouts and incentives to retire.Healthcare is another major issue and yes a STRIKE is the only weapon the hourly workers have so put a good contract on the table or there will be a STRIKE.The company is using its "nice face" for awhile huh?BULL CRAP.The company has gained right to work in Michigan and a divided and weak union.Here would be my trade-off with the company for the above solution-----just a small raise for everyone and a nice signing bonus.If that aint fair enough then----STRIKE!Fellas it aint gonna be easy and the company is your 'employer' not your friend.The company brings out its calculator and does its thinking with numbers!We give the company our lives and health with these AWS schedules!

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u must be a special kind of STUPID eh ? does that make u a bigger person ? being able to say STRIKE, good luck!!! u can strike all u want but when ur replaced with workers that will do your job for half ur pay and be happy about it, that is not the best option, but by all means go for it

ive heard all your talk before, the company is the enemy and we hate all workers, the 60's mentality is gone, time to move up to the new century

Cant even use the S-word?During a contract year?Passive-Aggression is insincere and not what is needed to achieve a fair contract.Cant even use the S-word,Wow! Back to the many issues.What may be a solution to the two-tier problem for hourly is incremental pay increases until tier one is reached but also their must be a ratio between the two tiers.This ratio could be achieved by offering the first tier buyouts and incentives to retire.Healthcare is another major issue and yes a STRIKE is the only weapon the hourly workers have so put a good contract on the table or there will be a STRIKE.The company is using its "nice face" for awhile huh?BULL CRAP.The company has gained right to work in Michigan and a divided and weak union.Here would be my trade-off with the company for the above solution-----just a small raise for everyone and a nice signing bonus.If that aint fair enough then----STRIKE!Fellas it aint gonna be easy and the company is your 'employer' not your friend.The company brings out its calculator and does its thinking with numbers!We give the company our lives and health with these AWS schedules!

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Go on strike I am looking to buy some boats, cars, trucks and big screen tvs cheap. Bet you idiots won't say that shit next contract after I buy all you morons shit for 30 cents on the dollar. Go big shots go. I make lots of money on strikes plus I have a great big building to store all your shit in.

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Thanks for the compliment DARK, now onto the issue.Ford announced they are moving production of the focus to Mexico less than a week before negotiations began did they do that with a smile?Whats it all mean?It means that this will be a difficult contract and a STRIKE is all the workers have to bargain with so I am not running scared.Jumpercable are even you a Ford employee?

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first of all, they didnt announce it week b4 neg. and it wasnt a ploy! ford cant be as profitable as they want with focus /cmax so its going to mexicali, so what, LET IT GO, ..... MAP will have a new better product, soon.

 

and no , there wont be any STRIKE, FYI you are talking out your butt. and YOU know it.

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people(ahem) should not use the S word too callously , cause it should be the absolute last option, both sides general lose, one side usually loses less, but its not good either way

 

that being said, there wont be a strike. and we will share in the companys profit. UAW is and should be a 'partner' to ford/gm/fca when company does well, so should we, and also vice versa. the strong German unions should be seen a good model here.

If you look closely the European Works Counsels are completely different from what is referred to as labor unions here in the states. The only thing the work counsel`s remotely do similar to our unions is join members under one united organization.

 

Members of the work counsels have more voice and more direct involvement in most if not all decisions. Representatives sit on the boards of the companies and have voice and vote on all labor matters.

 

These few points alone puts the works counsel`s very far ahead of our organizations. The biggest hold out on our organizations part is the control over its members. Our leadership will not hear of or will not give up the control they have over the membership.

 

But, a very good point dark.

 

Decker

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