Decker Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 (edited) Sounds like good news for the Flat Rock crew. Congratulations on your new product, with hopes of long hours of production and the possible raising of the membership numbers. Good Luck Flat Rock Decker Edited July 16, 2015 by Decker 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlecountry Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 Bend over and grab your ankles flat rock! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decker Posted July 17, 2015 Author Share Posted July 17, 2015 Really littlecountry...... come on. Decker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deflep1 Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 Bend over and grab your ankles flat rock! We work for Ford, we are used to it! And as always...NO LUBE! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decker Posted July 17, 2015 Author Share Posted July 17, 2015 I`m not sure but there won`t be any need to bend over at this rate. It may already be inserted. I`ve never seen a business move like this by Ford. Oh they have stacked the deck and the IUAW as always, will be the companies front men to sell the stacked deck but, this is a new technique for sure. The talks are still in the smiles and giggles stages over Jimmy`s favorite flavored Boone's Farm and some chips. They haven`t even got to the table yet and dam... The yes votes are the only thing stacking up. Read yesterday late after posting my first post in this tread, Jimmy is working hard at covering all the bases. It stated he was in discussions with the company to modify the transfer language so the members at CAP who want to follow the MKS production will be able to do just that. Hmmm I wonder how the transfer modification will play out for the members at CAP that would love to run and hide from all the stress on the floor from this federal class thingy....? Anyway... this is a really different contract season. Put the new products out there before any high lights? Give the members dreams of fleeing I meant... transferring. I can`t wait to see the glowing work of literary art, that lays in the golden ark. (the contract) 10 years of 3% raises with interest COLA with interest Monday after Easter OT after 8 & 40 No more tiers everyone gets raised in their hourly rate to a base of 29.50 per hour 10 minutes an hour break for all production members $50,000.00 bone us check Oppp`s sorry I fell asleep... (dreaming pretty good) This is going to be very interesting..... Decker 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pioneer Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 It was reported in the Detroit papers that the Continental wouldn't require any more workers than are already at FRAP. No openings, no transfers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 It was reported in the Detroit papers that the Continental wouldn't require any more workers than are already at FRAP. No openings, no transfers. They need people right now though. 50 Tier 1 are coming over from MAP next week that bid on openings a few months ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decker Posted July 17, 2015 Author Share Posted July 17, 2015 (edited) It was reported in the Detroit papers that the Continental wouldn't require any more workers than are already at FRAP. No openings, no transfers. I agree that was in the paper, possible meaning of "no transfers" may be none from out side of Michigan. Along with the fact that the MKS or D385 is not going to Flat Rock and the Continental is not going to be produced on a "D" platform and as of this point there will be little or no carryover parts (possibly only electronic parts, hopefully a better Sirius) this might fall into contractual language that is for new model applications. The MKS is being mothballed it isn`t even remotely close to the Continental as a model. The only remote relation between the two is the brand name Lincoln, that is it, a New Model. So I guess if the statement of Jimmy`s, that they are working on modifications to the transfer language would be once again another Big Jimmy taking care of all the bases and hope no one catches on till after his contract is signed..... Decker Edited July 18, 2015 by Decker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one of a kind Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 (edited) Livonia's map guys are trying to get make in to map. I say let them go. They should have that right up to 30 days top change there minds. Livonia is not what it used to be Edited July 17, 2015 by one of a kind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
182 Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 Sorry, they made their bed and now they have to sleep in it. We told those jerks Livonia isnt the country club anymore but they didnt listen. I heard they are all lazy and bitch about doing any work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlecountry Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 (edited) It was reported in the Detroit papers that the Continental wouldn't require any more workers than are already at FRAP. No openings, no transfers. Following your product requires no openings, you can still follow Edited July 18, 2015 by littlecountry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pioneer Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 Following your product requires no openings, you can still follow Not true. There has to be an opening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decker Posted July 18, 2015 Author Share Posted July 18, 2015 (edited) Following your product requires no openings, you can still follow In reality, there is no product to follow. One product is going the way of the Sable, Fairmont, Grand Torino anf T-Bird here at CAP and the product projected for Flat Rock is under all agreed guild lines a new product. The physical reality is completely apparent. But, there is room for the deals, hand shakes and modifications.... Yes, there has to be openings. Decker Edited July 18, 2015 by Decker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one of a kind Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 So how soon till Frap is going to need people Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 So how soon till Frap is going to need people I heard from a guy who knows a guy that Job 1 is April 1st. Rumor going around the floor is a third shift is coming in January. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trailfndr Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 182, You obviously heard wrong. I have talked to several that went, and they LIKE it there. I was supposed to go, and if given the chance WILL go. Unfortunately for me, I lost my opportunity due to unexpected emergency back surgery during the second week of shutdown. Once I get healthy and back to work at Map, if I get the chance...I WILL go to Livonia. I am surely NOT afraid of a little work... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatso Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 My old time WIXOM local 36 ass is gonna tell ya that when Ford Motor closed Wixom which at one time under Alex Trotman nearly outsold Cadillac {and caddy aint easy to beat} Ford Motor abandoned the luxury car market.See there is no longer any heritage associated with Lincoln,Lincoln is just anoher Ford.Fords luxury vehicle right now is a loaded F-150 King Ranch.Sorry to break it to ya but sales fgures don't lie.If I was rich and wanted to drive around Aspen Colorado and be seen in a car it would not be a Ford with a Lincoln badge.Luxury market is all about snob appeal! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlecountry Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 My old time WIXOM local 36 ass is gonna tell ya that when Ford Motor closed Wixom which at one time under Alex Trotman nearly outsold Cadillac {and caddy aint easy to beat} Ford Motor abandoned the luxury car market.See there is no longer any heritage associated with Lincoln,Lincoln is just anoher Ford.Fords luxury vehicle right now is a loaded F-150 King Ranch.Sorry to break it to ya but sales fgures don't lie.If I was rich and wanted to drive around Aspen Colorado and be seen in a car it would not be a Ford with a Lincoln badge.Luxury market is all about snob appeal! Blah blah blah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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