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EcoBoost 2.0L in the 2016 MKC?


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#1 OFFLINE   Fredvon4

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Posted 15 July 2015 - 10:41 AM

Title question, did the new 2016 MKc get the improved 2.0L ecoboost or the same engine as 2015?









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Posted 27 July 2015 - 08:34 AM

Bump

 

would have though someone here would have the true info

 

 

A side question would be how are the two versions identified?



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Posted 27 July 2015 - 08:44 AM

That would be spelled out in the Order Guide which I haven't seen posted yet.  I'll ping Ice-Capades and see if he has it yet.


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Posted 27 July 2015 - 10:29 AM

I built a 2015 with the Lincoln on line app and then at the dealer built and ordered the 2016 version, between the two order guides there were the ovisous differences of changed equipment is some "packages", colors but the exact same wording for the power 2.0 vs 2.3 with and with out AWD

 

In both cases it just lists the 2.0L EcoBoost and no other designation



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Posted 27 July 2015 - 10:40 AM

There is an actual order guide sent to dealers that detail any changes.   Not the online build and price or the public website.



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Posted 27 July 2015 - 10:56 AM

A side question would be how are the two versions identified?

 

One possible method is to look at the EPA Test Group identifier for the powertrain and nameplate. Here are the codes (starting with the second character) in the datasets available at http://www.fuelecono...download.shtml:

  • 2015 MKC 2.0L: FFMXT02.02E3
  • 2016 MKC 2.0L: FFMXT02.02E3
  • 2015 Escape 2.0L: FFMXT02.02E3
  • 2016 Escape 2.0L: FFMXT02.02E3 

This suggests that MKC and Escape use the same 2.0L engine for MY 2015 and 2016.


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Posted 27 July 2015 - 11:13 AM

I couldn't find those codes.  Can you compare the 2015 Edge with the 2014 Edge?  We know the 2014 is the old one and should match the codes above and the 2015 is the new one.


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Posted 27 July 2015 - 02:02 PM

Escape may be too far down the model cycle to get the new generation 2.0 Ecoboost.

 

MKC is stuck with whatever Escape gets.



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Posted 27 July 2015 - 02:10 PM

Escape may be too far down the model cycle to get the new generation 2.0 Ecoboost.

 

MKC is stuck with whatever Escape gets.

 

Not necessarily, although it would be easier to only have one version at the factory.   There isn't much reason to upgrade the MKC 2.0L because of the optional 2.3LEB.  



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Posted 27 July 2015 - 02:38 PM

On second thought... 2017 model is the mid cycle update right?

 

Maybe there is enough time left to update the drivetrain... I expect 1.5 EB to replace 1.6 EB for 2017 so Gen II 2.0 EB is not out of the question. Just not for 2016, which is going to be a very short model year.

 

The other thing to think about is the timing of the new FWD 9 speed auto... will that make it to the mid cycle update?


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Posted 27 July 2015 - 07:36 PM

I couldn't find those codes.  Can you compare the 2015 Edge with the 2014 Edge?  We know the 2014 is the old one and should match the codes above and the 2015 is the new one.

 

Sure thing - the code for 2015 Edge 2.0L (beginning with second character; the first character designates model year) is FMXT02.02JT and that for 2014 Edge 2.0L is FMXT02.02EX.


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Posted 27 July 2015 - 07:57 PM

Well there you go.



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Posted 28 July 2015 - 10:45 AM

I guess my take away here is the newer (Gen-II ?) 2.0L EB (discussed as early as late december 2014) is NOT included in the Escape and MKC for MY 2016

 

The page I read on CarScoops was discussing the 2015 EDGE---- a partial copy from the item"

 

"The twin-scroll EcoBoost engine is expected to deliver an estimated 245 horsepower and 270 lb-ft (366 Nm) of torque. Final output and EPA-estimated fuel economy ratings will be announced closer to product launch, early in 2015.

In addition to the twin-scroll turbocharger, the 2.0-liter EcoBoost also features new pistons that provide a higher compression ratio (going from 9.3:1 to 9.7:1), a newly designed, integrated exhaust manifold optimized for the twin-scroll setup, a new active oil control system, an active wastegate to more accurately manage boost and torque levels, and a new, high-pressure direct-injection fuel system.

Ford will start production of the twin-scroll 2.0-liter EcoBoost four-cylinder in early 2015 at the Cleveland Engine Plant No. 1, in Brook Park, Ohio, following an investment of nearly $200 million and the addition of 450 new jobs. The engines will be shipped to Oakville, Ontario, in Canada, where the 2015 Edge is produced. Currently, four-cylinder engines for the Edge are imported from Europe.

 

 

I was hoping with all the changes to the MKC that the newer tech 2.0L  EB engine would make it into my 2016 version



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Posted 28 July 2015 - 10:50 AM

My guess is they haven't ramped up production of the new 2.0L EB enough to supply multiple vehicles yet.

 

The other possibility is the 2017 MKC will get an upgrade and the 2.3L EB becomes the base engine so they won't need a 2.0L.



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