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THESTREET.COM quotes UAW officials as saying that "Ford is best positioned to be the union's negotiating target when talks begin the week of July 13".

 

http://www.thestreet.com/story/13190054/1/fords-selection-as-uaw-negotiating-target-puts-fiat-chrysler-in-precarious-position.html?puc=CNNMONEY&cm_ven=CNNMONEY

 

How will this effect us & do you see this as a good or bad thing for Ford?

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THESTREET.COM quotes UAW officials as saying that "Ford is best positioned to be the union's negotiating target when talks begin the week of July 13".

 

http://www.thestreet.com/story/13190054/1/fords-selection-as-uaw-negotiating-target-puts-fiat-chrysler-in-precarious-position.html?puc=CNNMONEY&cm_ven=CNNMONEY

 

How will this effect us & do you see this as a good or bad thing for Ford?

Tired of hearing the talk by international of "closing the gap", lets eliminate the gap.

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Wow..... surprise surprise

 

"Closing the gap" is IUAW lingo for we are begging Ford`s accountants to make the gap smaller.... even just a little, please? Take some from tier #1 and leave tier #2 alone.... see how the gap got smaller :thumbsup:

 

Decker

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Tired of hearing the talk by international of "closing the gap", lets eliminate the gap.

I wish. They don't care about the second class citizens known as entry level employees. This contract will be all about satisfying the 1st tier and what they want while the low seniority tier 2 will be left with the scraps and be tol just to be happy they have jobs.

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I wish. They don't care about the second class citizens known as entry level employees. This contract will be all about satisfying the 1st tier and what they want while the low seniority tier 2 will be left with the scraps and be tol just to be happy they have jobs.

 

Fuzzy

 

All I would add is tier #1 is in Ford`s sights, not tier #2. The IUAW stopped being union oriented and became politicians even more when they separated its membership with tiers. So the only way that the IUAW can make anything float will be to tell the entry level they didn`t loose anything and be thankful you have a job. Then tell tier #1 it`s all about "solidarity" and helping "your" sister`s and brother`s out by reducing those high wages of yours, that we proved to the world are way to high by letting tier #2 members do the same work for half.....

 

Tier #1 is gunna get an eye opener.....

 

Decker

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Wow slippy calm down a little. For beeinn so edumaacatted you sure be hi strung.

 

Decker

 

Ford is NOT the strike target. There are NO strike targets. Ford is the negotiating target. The union isn't going to kill the golden goose. I wish under educated morons would stop referring to strike targets every contract negotiation.

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naturally Ford is talking tough prior to talks, but being the target means the UAW feels it's chances of getting a decent contract are better at Ford than the others. Then thier hope would be others follow in step. I can't imagine the UAW would even propose tier 1 give back a single thing after over 10 yrs of no raises and all the give backs we've already given these past rough years. Everybody see the outragous pay of the top CEO'S just keeps gettng bigger and bigger as profits have return these past few years. Ford will push for the best deal they can get from a weak UAW, But they are smart enough to know a strike would cost them millions more than just offering a fair contract. Our major problem is the in fighting between tier 1 & 2.

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Fuzzy

 

All I would add is tier #1 is in Ford`s sights, not tier #2. The IUAW stopped being union oriented and became politicians even more when they separated its membership with tiers. So the only way that the IUAW can make anything float will be to tell the entry level they didn`t loose anything and be thankful you have a job. Then tell tier #1 it`s all about "solidarity" and helping "your" sister`s and brother`s out by reducing those high wages of yours, that we proved to the world are way to high by letting tier #2 members do the same work for half.....

 

Tier #1 is gunna get an eye opener.....

 

Decker

Agree,FMC wants to rid themselves of ALL tier 1 and their wages and benefits. As soon as IUAW agreed on having a tier 2 you knew what side they were on. Just wait and see what's brought to the table, tier 1's are in for a surprise. If anything tier 2's wages will be brought up some (ie bridging the gap) but NOT to tier 1 wages. Your not hearing the IUAW say that tier 1 MUST get a raise. Can't see FMC giving raises to tier 1's when they would love to see them all gone. As soon as this 2nd tier was brought in the writing was on the wall. I can see them offering tier 1's buyouts to get rid of as many as they can.

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80% of the workers are tier 1. Don't see them being stupid enough to approve a contract that screws them. But you tier 2 people keep dreaming the dream.

 

The 80% of the sheep voted for at lease the last two gems.....? Tier 2 see the truth every Friday niteeyes, it`s not a dream. Niteeye`s you may want to get those eye`s checked, "don`t "see" them being stupid enough to approve a contract that screws them"....? Ok who is dreaming?

 

Decker

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The 80% of the sheep voted for at lease the last two gems.....? Tier 2 see the truth every Friday niteeyes, it`s not a dream. Niteeye`s you may want to get those eye`s checked, "don`t "see" them being stupid enough to approve a contract that screws them"....? Or who is dreaming?

 

Decker

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In the end, the 2nd tier is the minority. If the contract that is approved screws us, there is absolutely nothing our votes can do about it.

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80% of the workers are tier 1. Don't see them being stupid enough to approve a contract that screws them. But you tier 2 people keep dreaming the dream.

Didn't the last 2 contracts pass without any raises on them for tier 1? And also on those contracts that both passed look at what else tier 1 gave up. So don't say they won't vote yes on a contract that screws them because that comment is wrong, the last 2 contracts passing has proved that.

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BINGO! That's probably the very reason that Ford is being chosen as the strike/negotiating target since we'll vote in the first POS contract that comes down the pike. Makes it easy on the Union too. Seems everyone has forgotten that we can send them back to the table.

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The 80% of the sheep voted for at lease the last two gems.....? Tier 2 see the truth every Friday niteeyes, it`s not a dream. Niteeye`s you may want to get those eye`s checked, "don`t "see" them being stupid enough to approve a contract that screws them"....? Ok who is dreaming?

 

Decker

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I've said to before and I'll say it again, " There will be a "buy-down" in this contract. If FMC offers enough mony to Legacy Employees they will take a pay-cut. Tier 2 will get part of that "cut" as a raise. Many of those Legacy people will "take the money and run" and tier 2 will take the raise........... That will be your majority and it will pass.

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Nobody should be forced to take a buy down cause a contract passed, if the company wants a buy down it should be offered as voluntary just like the buyouts were.

 

Its called collective bargaining.

 

You as a union member allow the IUAW to negotiate on your behalf and you get what they negotiate ( if passed ) good and bad.

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