luigi99 Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 So there is a Building Chair at Louisville's Assembly Plant that likes to drink & drive. This Chairperson just got DUI #3 within 5 years. It is a Misdemeanor offense but in my opinion, a serious one. Louisville workers have been trying to discuss the work-related issues caused by this transgressional event but the moderators of the local Ford forum have either locked us out of our discussion or totally deleted our questions & posts. So let me ask for your feedback on this unfortunate topic.........(1) Should we drop all discussion of these DUI's by this elected member & cross our fingers hoping this will not negatively affect us in any way? or (2) Do these DUI's merit concern & discussion for a promising future for all of our UAW members? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlecountry Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 His DUI will not affect LAP's future, the SALES of the products you build will decide that! Why does everybody think the union controls the fate of a plant! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi99 Posted April 30, 2015 Author Share Posted April 30, 2015 We're mostly concerned how this may affect contract negotiations just around the corner & we are talking about 3 DUI's within 5 years which could be punishable up to 60 days (not likely) & the guy will lose all driving privileges for 3 yrs. I would say this is a little more serious than a single DUI. Can he effectively negotiate with the company when the company already knows how pitiful of a decision maker he is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlecountry Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 You actually think the union negotiates the best deal for the members, your wrong, they negotiate what keeps their pockets lined! Your gonna get screwed whether they are sober or drunk! Get use to it. Your bringing negative attention to your plant for no reason! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madime39 Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 I understand your concerns, Luigi. And clearly, nothing in your first post indicated that you were concerned about the plant closing because of this situation. Maybe someone else will chime in with some advice. If the majority of members are fed up with his b.s., they have the power (via vote) to remove him. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ackspac Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 LAP would be a great place for a union. We haven't had one in the past 6 years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlecountry Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 Just enjoy the Derby 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerrymaker Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 so it won't affect the future as you say. unless the media gets wind of of it....then? His DUI will not affect LAP's future, the SALES of the products you build will decide that!Why does everybody think the union controls the fate of a plant! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carguy Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 KY law must be easy when it comes to drunk drivers. In MI he wouldn't smell a drivers license for the next 10-15 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nmsford Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 KY law must be easy when it comes to drunk drivers. In MI he wouldn't smell a drivers license for the next 10-15 years.[/quote 3rd DUI In Michigan is a felony with 5 years minimum suspended license Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlecountry Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 so it won't affect the future as you say. unless the media gets wind of of it....then? I see Chrysler sales are doing very well, if I remember correctly the media busted it's workers doing things on there lunch break. Sales depend on customers wanting your product, not what the media reports! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerrymaker Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 I see Chrysler sales are doing very well, if I remember correctly the media busted it's workers doing things on there lunch break. Sales depend on customers wanting your product, not what the media reports! chrysler is a foreign auto company, has been for a decade or so. the only reason sales may be up is jeep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlecountry Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 chrysler is a foreign auto company, has been for a decade or so. the only reason sales may be up is jeep. Your trying to avoid my comment cause you know it's true! It's about the media not who owns Chrysler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damagedone37 Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 Chrysler b&b the minivan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatso Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 Ah a-Luigi you bring up a valid point.Yes the DUI`s make the Building Chair more vulnerable in negotiations and also raises the question of, is this person intoxicated on the job.Every Ford plant has cliques and those on the inside get away with murder while the outsiders better NEVER make a slip,zero tolerance!Look at the trouble at CAP with sexual harassment and I will tell you how many times I will get away with that,zero tolerance!My advice to Mark Fields would be to bust up all of the plant cliques every few years,move managers around. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlecountry Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 Yea Mark is gonna move union officials around, only place Mark gonna move the union is out the door! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatso Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 Little Country I meant Ford salaried employees.I have seen cliques form and preferential treatment given to workers,rules enforced arbitrarily and capriciously,suspicious dealings with vendors etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi99 Posted May 8, 2015 Author Share Posted May 8, 2015 So as most of you know that are on here, Louisville has 2 Ford plants so the Local has 2 Building Chairs. These 2 Chairs basically make up the "FACE" of a very large membership. Half of this "FACE" from Louisville Assembly Plant was ignorant enough to go out & get his 3rd DUI. This has been an embarrassment to many proud 862 members & of course there has been no apology from this irresponsible Chair. Also, now open records are showing that his criminal driving DUI violation has been reduced from a 3rd offense to a 1st offense. To me, this just wreaks of Union dollars being squandered to save the ass of a very selfish & very dumb Building Chair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chassisgrunt Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 Luigi seems to be the only one that thinks this is a big deal. Yawn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi99 Posted May 8, 2015 Author Share Posted May 8, 2015 Luigi seems to be the only one that thinks this is a big deal. Yawn Yawn? Maybe!.......but guess what. It's certainly too late to sweep this under the rug like all the other crap the abusive & corrupt Union officials attempt to hide, now isn't it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chassisgrunt Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 You created an account, to complain about somebody's personal problem. If not offends you that much, deal with him personally. Not by creating an anonymous account and complaining behind a screen name on the Internet. If you care as much as you pretend to, grow a pair and confront him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi99 Posted May 8, 2015 Author Share Posted May 8, 2015 You created an account, to complain about somebody's personal problem. If not offends you that much, deal with him personally. Not by creating an anonymous account and complaining behind a screen name on the Internet. If you care as much as you pretend to, grow a pair and confront him. HaHaHa!........My anonymous gripe holds a lot more merit than what you're giving it. By the way, what appointed suckass position do you currently hold? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chassisgrunt Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 Let me guess, if I had an appointed job you would hide behind a screen name and talk bad about me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi99 Posted May 8, 2015 Author Share Posted May 8, 2015 Very interesting question Grunt. If you are just somebody that went out & made a really bad choice for the very first time, then most definitely I wouldn't light you up. But then again that would totally depend on how you rated on my patented suckass chart. As of now your scores are pretty high on the chart but the test isn't yet complete. Maybe your next post can make that conclusion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2seater Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 (edited) Trust me luigi isnt the only one at LAP that has a problem with it. When you are elected that high of a position you should be responsible & trustworhty, 3 dui's is neither AND it was on the way to work, many very upset about it but seems to be getting swept under the rug. Edited May 8, 2015 by 2seater Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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