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How are you going to tell a guy with 20 years that someone with 1 year can get a job posting etc etc over them?? A lot of times when people go to different plants it's not their choice. They were laid off from their plant and placed there. Then when they get in a new plant they're told they have zero seniority??? Would never happen

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Look at your national agreement vol.1 see what it says. No one is getting "forced" anywhere we always have options all we're saying is you choose Livonia you Come in with December 1st 2000 if not go to another plant. once again it's a choice

You can call it a choice all you want but it still won't make it true. What kind of choice is it when your options are getting laid off, having to move out of state of Livonia??? The vast majority of the time when people transfer to other plants it's because they're out of options.

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Interesting that Livonian wants to do this NOW... Most everyone knows they are going to be adding jobs at some point in the next few years and people will be wanting to transfer into the plant. Yet if you ask the people that Livonia forced to go to other plants several years ago, they all carried their full seniority with them

 

And yes, Saline did something similar to this, BUT, that was not for transfers, that was only for those LOANED to the plant on a temporary basis.

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This has happened at the Big Three in Canada for yrs. If you are given an option to go to another plant in another city for "preferential" hire your seniority in the plant begins when you arrive. You hold your original seniority date for pension, benefits and vacation but, drop to the bottom of the pile when you arrive in your NEW plant. It's been like that since the 80's or longer.

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This has happened at the Big Three in Canada for yrs. If you are given an option to go to another plant in another city for "preferential" hire your seniority in the plant begins when you arrive. You hold your original seniority date for pension, benefits and vacation but, drop to the bottom of the pile when you arrive in your NEW plant. It's been like that since the 80's or longer.

 

So if preferential placement is handled that way, how is it handled if people are transferred without being given an "option"? Preferential placement is considerably different than, say, when a plant closes and you're not given an option on which plant to transfer to. Just curious...

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You can bid between plants in Windsor. There is also an assembly plant in Oakville, Ontario. Some laid off members from Windsor are working in Oakville. They cannot be transferred there. There had to be openings available for them to go as preferential hires. Their in-plant seniority begins when they start.

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Interesting that Livonian wants to do this NOW... Most everyone knows they are going to be adding jobs at some point in the next few years and people will be wanting to transfer into the plant. Yet if you ask the people that Livonia forced to go to other plants several years ago, they all carried their full seniority with them

 

 

And those people with "full seniority" had no seniority.

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Wow lets just fu*k over people who have seniority that worked hard for it, weather at your plant or another plant BROTHER.

 

We're no god damn UNION, it's stupid shit like this that's happening at some fu*ked up local that separates us right BROTHER.

 

Enjoy the AWS 182

 

With this stupid shit happening maybe its time for right to work BROTHER ! :play:

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