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DETROIT (Reuters) -- The Chevrolet Malibu has been a symbol of General Motors’ competitive woes for nearly 20 years because of designs that critics often lambasted as boring. Now, the No. 1 U.S. automaker is telling suppliers a redesigned version of the midsize sedan will deliver a long-awaited sales jolt.

GM executives have told suppliers to prepare for sales in North America of 250,000 new Malibus a year, 25 percent above last year’s levels, and have the ability to go as high as 300,000 cars a year, according to three supplier sources familiar with the plans.

 

 

So they're planning an astronomical jump in volume AND in average transaction price?

 

What could go wrong?

 

http://www.autonews.com/article/20150326/OEM04/150329886/new-chevy-malibu-tasked-with-meeting-gms-aggressive-sales-goals

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I wouldn't wanna bet too much against the next Malibu.

 

Examples: as the 08-12' was a hit i'm sure they took their time with this, the Malibu can be made in 2 factories if need be, the Chrysler 200 went from 0 to top 10 best selling sedans within one redesign same with Sonata without GMs dealer network .

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I wouldn't wanna bet too much against the next Malibu.

 

Examples: as the 08-12' was a hit i'm sure they took their time with this, the Malibu can be made in 2 factories if need be, the Chrysler 200 went from 0 to top 10 best selling sedans within one redesign same with Sonata without GMs dealer network .

You're expecting something decent to come out of the design studio though....

 

That's what was key in jump the models you listed. Obviously, I'll reserve judgment until we see the final product, but I don't have high hopes for a vehicle that we've seen has the same 2 slot (with Chevy logo/bar in the middle) grille they said they were going away from 3 years ago and that has "Corvette-style" taillights (the current "Canaro-style" taillights look terrible). But we'll see. Either way, it sounds like the same business as usual, pie in the sky, overly optimistic sales projections out of GM.

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I wouldn't wanna bet too much against the next Malibu.

 

Examples: as the 08-12' was a hit i'm sure they took their time with this, the Malibu can be made in 2 factories if need be, the Chrysler 200 went from 0 to top 10 best selling sedans within one redesign same with Sonata without GMs dealer network .

 

The one thing that Fiat Chrysler has "going" for it is the lack product around it to take sales away from it...no compact sedan under it nor a mid-sized CUV.

 

The Sonata was always around the the top 10-15 of sales previous to its redesign and the new refresh actually took a step back innthe looks dept.

 

The 'bui doesnt have any of this going for it...it took the Fusion nearly six years get into the top four of sales with incremental improvements during that time and no artificial limiting of product because of Buick

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The one thing that Fiat Chrysler has "going" for it is the lack product around it to take sales away from it...no compact sedan under it nor a mid-sized CUV.

 

The Sonata was always around the the top 10-15 of sales previous to its redesign and the new refresh actually took a step back innthe looks dept.

 

The 'bui doesnt have any of this going for it...it took the Fusion nearly six years get into the top four of sales with incremental improvements during that time and no artificial limiting of product because of Buick

There was artificial limiting until Mercury got axed
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There was artificial limiting until Mercury got axed

Eh, I don't really think there was much limiting because of Mercury, at least features wise. There was nothing different options-wise between the two, only different front and rear clips, with minor changes inside.

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The one thing that Fiat Chrysler has "going" for it is the lack product around it to take sales away from it...no compact sedan under it nor a mid-sized CUV.

 

The Dart and Journey are decent selling and sold half times in the same showrooms, btw where were the 200 buyers before the redesign?, Avenger wasn't pulling in half of the 200 numbers .

The Sonata was always around the the top 10-15 of sales previous to its redesign and the new refresh actually took a step back innthe looks dept.

 

Shoulda specify the 10-14' models made the difference, before that it was a forgotten Korean product.

 

The 'bui doesnt have any of this going for it...it took the Fusion nearly six years get into the top four of sales with incremental improvements during that time and no artificial limiting of product because of Buick

We don't know what the new Malibu have in store (other than it's bigger and a Voltec model) . The Malibu since the 90's made several appearances in the lower top 10 sales, I don't know what's different now and Buick?, really?, the Regal moves 1500-2500 cars a month vs the Malibu 15-18000 a month. I hardly car that limiting otherwise include the Impala and Lacrosse to the mix.

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Doesn't matter how good the new Malibu is, it ain't going to see a 25% increase without fleet dumping or huge incentives.

 

Mercury didn't limit Fusion sales - you have to build up to those volumes with multiple iterations of repeat buyers to go along with the new ones.

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The Dart and Journey are decent selling and sold half times in the same showrooms, btw where were the 200 buyers before the redesign?, Avenger wasn't pulling in half of the 200 numbers .

Shoulda specify the 10-14' models made the difference, before that it was a forgotten Korean product.

 

We don't know what the new Malibu have in store (other than it's bigger and a Voltec model) . The Malibu since the 90's made several appearances in the lower top 10 sales, I don't know what's different now and Buick?, really?, the Regal moves 1500-2500 cars a month vs the Malibu 15-18000 a month. I hardly car that limiting otherwise include the Impala and Lacrosse to the mix.

 

The Journey is a fleet/rental queen.

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The Dart and Journey are decent selling and sold half times in the same showrooms, btw where were the 200 buyers before the redesign?, Avenger wasn't pulling in half of the 200 numbers .

 

The Dart sells horribly vs other compact cars like the Focus and even Cruz. The point your missing about the Malbui is that they arent selling more profitable 35k ones because that would step on the toes of Buick.

 

 

The Journey is a fleet/rental queen.

the Jury AFAIK is still out that isn't happening to the 200 also. anadotically it doesnt seem to be the case though.

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Whether it is a 25 percent increase or a 10 percent increase or whatever it turns out to be, to me a bigger question is whether the new Malibu will be good enough to cause a drop in the sale of the Ford Fusion and other competitors.

 

The Malibu will once again be the new kid on the mid-size block with all their competitors relying on cars that are a 2-3 generational years older (except for the Hyundai Sonata which is new in 2015 and the Camry revised in 2015). If the Malibu has more features and interior room and is styled nicely, they will probably bring in more buyers than they had previously and that will be at the expense of their competitors.

 

 

So while GM tells their suppliers what to plan for, I will be more interested in seeing what happens in total across the mid-size market once the Malibu goes on sale.

 

My choice for my 2014 Fusion could easily have been a Malibu if it were not for the lack of room in back seat of the Malibu and their pricing. And speaking of pricing I really don't understand Ford's pricing strategy on Fusions either because it seems like they have constant rebates on their cars. If that is built into their margins, then good for them. But if it's not then does that mean they can't move cars unless they have these discounts?

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This next Malibu will be a much better product and should fnally achieve increased sales and transaction prices,

what that ultimately means of Impala sales is anyone's guess. The important point here is that GM gives its

customers what they are asking for, do that and all will be well.

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This next Malibu will be a much better product and should fnally achieve increased sales and transaction prices,

what that ultimately means of Impala sales is anyone's guess. The important point here is that GM gives its

customers what they are asking for, do that and all will be well.

I agree the new Malibu will be a better car. Looking at the numbers, the overall market was up 6% and midsize sedans was up 1%. Malibu sales were down 6%. This segment will be close to flat for 2015, my guess. The top 5 cars make up 70%. The big five sales were up 4 to 6 percent. Mazda, Subaru and Kia sales were up. The new Chrysler sales are up for the past 4 or 5 months. New Optima is coming. That leaves

Malibu and Passat(down 11 or 12 percent). The new Malibu has to compete with the old Malibu in the same sales space. The only way they

can succeed to plan is to take sales from the other players. I think the two Chevys' together may see increased sales to a point,but this is a

crowded space.

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My choice for my 2014 Fusion could easily have been a Malibu if it were not for the lack of room in back seat of the Malibu and their pricing.

 

 

And speaking of pricing I really don't understand Ford's pricing strategy on Fusions either because it seems like they have constant rebates on their cars. If that is built into their margins, then good for them. But if it's not then does that mean they can't move cars unless they have these discounts?

 

The first sentence kind of reads like, "The dinner would've been really good, except the meat was undercooked and there was a big ol' hair in the mashed potatoes."----in short, it really wasn't that good.

 

Every vehicle in the entry-level segment has a rebate or incentive on it at some point in time or another. The Fusion's ATPs are among the highest in the segment these days.

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Regardless of buyer response, you can bet that GM will gear up to build 300,000/year of new Malibu

and that's the real worry for me, a rampant GM building excess product and dumping on markets

just to keep its own factory order books full and using incentives to force down competitor pricing.

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