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"an all-new large sedan will debut at NY, underpinned by an architecture that wont be FWD.

 

Ring ring, we have a winner - its the 2016 Lincoln MKS sedan without any shadow of doubt.

 

Further details havent been shared, but from what weve learnt, we can tell the following: the rumored Continental nameplate may not return with this all-new MKS (sorry Neil Young and Pono Music), the mysterious D6/CD6 rear and all-wheel drive platform is highly probable to debut on this full-size sedan. Our hunch is that the MKS' sister model Ford Taurus will also adopt this skeleton for the 2016 model year."

 

http://m.autoevolution.com/exclusive-2016-lincoln-mks-confirmed-for-new-york-auto-show-debut-91495.html

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The simplest answer is probably the right one, transverse AWD only - no FWD version.

 

There are instances in the past where Ford has stressed that AWD is different to FWD and yes, the source is playing on "not FWD"

because that is seen as an almost derogatory term when used in the same breath as Luxury vehicle...anymore is pure speculation.

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Yea, that website is fully of incorrect info, I thought it was TTAC.

 

  • D6 is at least 2 years away. We know this because Explorer just got a mid cycle facelift so there is at least 3 model years left before D6 Explorer will debut.
  • MKS is CD4... we've known this like forever. Ford is moving production to Flat Rock on the same line as Fusion and MKZ.
  • Aviator trademark by itself is meaningless. Companies trademark outdated product all the time to stop other people from using it. Ford still renewed Pinto as well, doesn't mean it will start selling it again.
  • "Nano V6" is the 2.7 Ecoboost... it's already been revealed.

Edit - looks like other people also ridiculed them so they've heavily edited the article.

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"an all-new large sedan will debut at NY, underpinned by an architecture that wont be FWD.

 

Ring ring, we have a winner - its the 2016 Lincoln MKS sedan without any shadow of doubt.

 

Further details havent been shared, but from what weve learnt, we can tell the following: the rumored Continental nameplate may not return with this all-new MKS (sorry Neil Young and Pono Music), the mysterious D6/CD6 rear and all-wheel drive platform is highly probable to debut on this full-size sedan. Our hunch is that the MKS' sister model Ford Taurus will also adopt this skeleton for the 2016 model year."

 

http://m.autoevolution.com/exclusive-2016-lincoln-mks-confirmed-for-new-york-auto-show-debut-91495.html

 

This I can tell you with absolute certainty - the above referenced article is totally flawed.

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[*]MKS is CD4... we've known this like forever. Ford is moving production to Flat Rock on the same line as Fusion and MKZ

No, everything about this statement is wrong.

 

MKZ is NOT built at Flat Rock. Mexico only

 

MKS and Taurus will NOT be on he same line as the Fusion, it's a completely separate line. FRAP HAS 2 LINES!

 

The only vehicle that shares a line with Fusion at Flat Rock is the Mustang, and only the Mustang, and it's going to stay that way for a while.

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Yea, that website is fully of incorrect info, I thought it was TTAC.

 

  • D6 is at least 2 years away. We know this because Explorer just got a mid cycle facelift so there is at least 3 model years left before D6 Explorer will debut.
  • MKS is CD4... we've known this like forever. Ford is moving production to Flat Rock on the same line as Fusion and MKZ.
  • Aviator trademark by itself is meaningless. Companies trademark outdated product all the time to stop other people from using it. Ford still renewed Pinto as well, doesn't mean it will start selling it again.
  • "Nano V6" is the 2.7 Ecoboost... it's already been revealed.

Edit - looks like other people also ridiculed them so they've heavily edited the article.

 

Eh, just because the Explorer is now receiving and MCE and a redesign is 2 years away doesn't necessarily mean CD6 is 2 years away. They could have products using it come online before the Explorer - say potentially MKS or Aviator (making a debut before Explorer, seeing as there isn't currently an Aviator for product cycles to matter). Is it likely? I don't know, but it is in theory possible.

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No, everything about this statement is wrong.

 

MKZ is NOT built at Flat Rock. Mexico only

 

MKS and Taurus will NOT be on he same line as the Fusion, it's a completely separate line. FRAP HAS 2 LINES!

 

The only vehicle that shares a line with Fusion at Flat Rock is the Mustang, and only the Mustang, and it's going to stay that way for a while.

 

Actually, there is talk about moving some Lincoln production to Michigan, including Flat Rock.

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This seems awfully "early" for the "totally new" Lincoln platform. D6 in 2019 sounds much more realistic.

 

I'm still wondering what Ford plans on doing with the PI versions of the Taurus and Explorer. PI sedans are not selling as well as they hoped (not many "glowing" reports from the field), The good news is that PI SUV sales are beating expectations !

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My police dept changed from Impala's to PI SUV, mainly because many of them are required to have x-y-z apparatus if they are SWAT certified. The Taurus PI may have a good trunk cubic wise, but access to it is horrible, (the cut out doesnt allow for much access) so they said they went with the PI SUV because its easier for them to store their gear. Maybe it's an storage equipment issue ?

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My police dept changed from Impala's to PI SUV, mainly because many of them are required to have x-y-z apparatus if they are SWAT certified. The Taurus PI may have a good trunk cubic wise, but access to it is horrible, (the cut out doesnt allow for much access) so they said they went with the PI SUV because its easier for them to store their gear. Maybe it's an storage equipment issue ?

No, although the trunk is full of radios and additional "firepower" (many cars now carry both a shotgun, with various rounds, and an AR15).

 

There are 2 big issues with the PI Sedan (both could be resolved with a longer wheel base).

  • Insufficient driver leg room, for LEO's over 6'2" or who have eaten too many donuts.
  • Insufficient rear leg room. Having handcuffed "suspect" lay across the seat is not the best idea. Officers driving sedans must call in SUVs for transport.
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No, although the trunk is full of radios and additional "firepower" (many cars now carry both a shotgun, with various rounds, and an AR15).

 

There are 2 big issues with the PI Sedan (both could be resolved with a longer wheel base).

  • Insufficient driver leg room, for LEO's over 6'2" or who have eaten too many donuts.
  • Insufficient rear leg room. Having handcuffed "suspect" lay across the seat is not the best idea. Officers driving sedans must call in SUVs for transport.

 

Love my SHO (But do miss my 07 CV Sport) I'm 6-2 and a skinny 205-but I don't carry a Glock, radio, Taser etc etc. No if ands or buts (butts?) The interior dimensions are tight. And while in the CV you could always change seat positions on a long drive, you don't have that option in a Taurus.

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  • 1 month later...

I am excited to see what they do. I hope the split wing grille continues to evolve in shape and depth like we saw on the MKX Concept; unfortunately, the production MKX grille was watered down some.

 

A few years ago the MKS was fairly handsome, and now it competes with the MKT for most homely in the lineup. At Detroit this year, I noticed they did a slight refresh to the back end with a long horizontal chrome bar and a void below that almost looked more Chrysler than Lincoln. Between the goofy grille, the tacky chrome bits by the rocker panels, and now this big chrome slab across the back... I can see why almost no one is buying the current model.

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^ what chrome bits on the rocker panels??

 

my complaint** has been the matte black plasstic cladding, did they get rid of THAT?

or just add plasschrome outlining/doodadds?

 

 

** besides:

- they keep changing the WRONG Parts

- the fine-tooth baleen grille insert -barf- caNNot believe Max had anything to do with that

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My bet is the old MKS might soldier on for a year or two on existing platform. Just to wait and see if sales of the new product pick up.

 

Personally, I think this is an area, for now at least, that Lincoln could keep this as a Lincoln only platform. Leave the stretched CD4 supposed Taurus update for the Ford line.

 

I am concerned about Lincoln. The new MKC isn't picking up as large of sales as I would like. If the MKX, Continental, Navigator don't pick up more sales, Ford might be better off making high end Platinum models and dump Lincoln. Not that I "want" Lincoln to go away. But I'd say they have 2 more years to straighten this ship out before they need to start making some hard choices whether further investment is the way to go.

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