Fgts Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 (edited) "an all-new large sedan will debut at NY, underpinned by an architecture that wont be FWD. Ring ring, we have a winner - its the 2016 Lincoln MKS sedan without any shadow of doubt. Further details havent been shared, but from what weve learnt, we can tell the following: the rumored Continental nameplate may not return with this all-new MKS (sorry Neil Young and Pono Music), the mysterious D6/CD6 rear and all-wheel drive platform is highly probable to debut on this full-size sedan. Our hunch is that the MKS' sister model Ford Taurus will also adopt this skeleton for the 2016 model year." http://m.autoevolution.com/exclusive-2016-lincoln-mks-confirmed-for-new-york-auto-show-debut-91495.html Edited January 23, 2015 by Fgts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 One could even assume that like MKT and MKT Town Car, there may be a new MKS and MKS Continental.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 One could even assume that like MKT and MKT Town Car, there may be a new MKS and MKS Continental.... Eh, I think that'd be a waste of the name just for the sake of using it in some capacity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 It could be RWD but a Transverse full time AWD setup with the ability to split torque 50/50 is more likely I think (this is the same AWD system as the Focus RS). I think RWD would be saved for the utilities and sports cars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harley Lover Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 AWD... the Ford source is messing with the writer, saying "it won't be FWD". C'mon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 (edited) The simplest answer is probably the right one, transverse AWD only - no FWD version. There are instances in the past where Ford has stressed that AWD is different to FWD and yes, the source is playing on "not FWD" because that is seen as an almost derogatory term when used in the same breath as Luxury vehicle...anymore is pure speculation. Edited January 23, 2015 by jpd80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fgts Posted January 23, 2015 Author Share Posted January 23, 2015 My hopes are not high but it could be the debut of the rwd/CD6 while rwd Taurus/Explorer comes by '19. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bzcat Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 (edited) Yea, that website is fully of incorrect info, I thought it was TTAC. D6 is at least 2 years away. We know this because Explorer just got a mid cycle facelift so there is at least 3 model years left before D6 Explorer will debut. MKS is CD4... we've known this like forever. Ford is moving production to Flat Rock on the same line as Fusion and MKZ. Aviator trademark by itself is meaningless. Companies trademark outdated product all the time to stop other people from using it. Ford still renewed Pinto as well, doesn't mean it will start selling it again. "Nano V6" is the 2.7 Ecoboost... it's already been revealed. Edit - looks like other people also ridiculed them so they've heavily edited the article. Edited January 23, 2015 by bzcat 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertlane Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 "an all-new large sedan will debut at NY, underpinned by an architecture that wont be FWD. Ring ring, we have a winner - its the 2016 Lincoln MKS sedan without any shadow of doubt. Further details havent been shared, but from what weve learnt, we can tell the following: the rumored Continental nameplate may not return with this all-new MKS (sorry Neil Young and Pono Music), the mysterious D6/CD6 rear and all-wheel drive platform is highly probable to debut on this full-size sedan. Our hunch is that the MKS' sister model Ford Taurus will also adopt this skeleton for the 2016 model year." http://m.autoevolution.com/exclusive-2016-lincoln-mks-confirmed-for-new-york-auto-show-debut-91495.html This I can tell you with absolute certainty - the above referenced article is totally flawed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 [*]MKS is CD4... we've known this like forever. Ford is moving production to Flat Rock on the same line as Fusion and MKZ No, everything about this statement is wrong. MKZ is NOT built at Flat Rock. Mexico only MKS and Taurus will NOT be on he same line as the Fusion, it's a completely separate line. FRAP HAS 2 LINES! The only vehicle that shares a line with Fusion at Flat Rock is the Mustang, and only the Mustang, and it's going to stay that way for a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Yea, that website is fully of incorrect info, I thought it was TTAC. D6 is at least 2 years away. We know this because Explorer just got a mid cycle facelift so there is at least 3 model years left before D6 Explorer will debut. MKS is CD4... we've known this like forever. Ford is moving production to Flat Rock on the same line as Fusion and MKZ. Aviator trademark by itself is meaningless. Companies trademark outdated product all the time to stop other people from using it. Ford still renewed Pinto as well, doesn't mean it will start selling it again. "Nano V6" is the 2.7 Ecoboost... it's already been revealed. Edit - looks like other people also ridiculed them so they've heavily edited the article. Eh, just because the Explorer is now receiving and MCE and a redesign is 2 years away doesn't necessarily mean CD6 is 2 years away. They could have products using it come online before the Explorer - say potentially MKS or Aviator (making a debut before Explorer, seeing as there isn't currently an Aviator for product cycles to matter). Is it likely? I don't know, but it is in theory possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertlane Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 No, everything about this statement is wrong. MKZ is NOT built at Flat Rock. Mexico only MKS and Taurus will NOT be on he same line as the Fusion, it's a completely separate line. FRAP HAS 2 LINES! The only vehicle that shares a line with Fusion at Flat Rock is the Mustang, and only the Mustang, and it's going to stay that way for a while. Actually, there is talk about moving some Lincoln production to Michigan, including Flat Rock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 Actually, there is talk about moving some Lincoln production to Michigan, including Flat Rock. Everyone I know who works there say it's MKS, it's just not going to be on the same line as Mustang/Fusion. It's the other line that isn't being utilized at this moment 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theoldwizard Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 (edited) This seems awfully "early" for the "totally new" Lincoln platform. D6 in 2019 sounds much more realistic. I'm still wondering what Ford plans on doing with the PI versions of the Taurus and Explorer. PI sedans are not selling as well as they hoped (not many "glowing" reports from the field), The good news is that PI SUV sales are beating expectations ! Edited January 26, 2015 by theoldwizard 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANTAUS Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 My police dept changed from Impala's to PI SUV, mainly because many of them are required to have x-y-z apparatus if they are SWAT certified. The Taurus PI may have a good trunk cubic wise, but access to it is horrible, (the cut out doesnt allow for much access) so they said they went with the PI SUV because its easier for them to store their gear. Maybe it's an storage equipment issue ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theoldwizard Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 (edited) My police dept changed from Impala's to PI SUV, mainly because many of them are required to have x-y-z apparatus if they are SWAT certified. The Taurus PI may have a good trunk cubic wise, but access to it is horrible, (the cut out doesnt allow for much access) so they said they went with the PI SUV because its easier for them to store their gear. Maybe it's an storage equipment issue ? No, although the trunk is full of radios and additional "firepower" (many cars now carry both a shotgun, with various rounds, and an AR15). There are 2 big issues with the PI Sedan (both could be resolved with a longer wheel base). Insufficient driver leg room, for LEO's over 6'2" or who have eaten too many donuts. Insufficient rear leg room. Having handcuffed "suspect" lay across the seat is not the best idea. Officers driving sedans must call in SUVs for transport. Edited January 27, 2015 by theoldwizard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Rosadini Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 No, although the trunk is full of radios and additional "firepower" (many cars now carry both a shotgun, with various rounds, and an AR15). There are 2 big issues with the PI Sedan (both could be resolved with a longer wheel base). Insufficient driver leg room, for LEO's over 6'2" or who have eaten too many donuts. Insufficient rear leg room. Having handcuffed "suspect" lay across the seat is not the best idea. Officers driving sedans must call in SUVs for transport. Love my SHO (But do miss my 07 CV Sport) I'm 6-2 and a skinny 205-but I don't carry a Glock, radio, Taser etc etc. No if ands or buts (butts?) The interior dimensions are tight. And while in the CV you could always change seat positions on a long drive, you don't have that option in a Taurus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joseodiaga4 Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 (edited) "On the New York Auto Show's website, it shows that a new Lincoln vehicle will debut. What's very likely is for Lincoln to show a MKS concept." http://www.autoevolution.com/news/exclusive-2016-lincoln-mks-confirmed-for-new-york-auto-show-debut-91495.html Edited March 13, 2015 by joseodiaga4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustang84isu Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 (edited) I am excited to see what they do. I hope the split wing grille continues to evolve in shape and depth like we saw on the MKX Concept; unfortunately, the production MKX grille was watered down some. A few years ago the MKS was fairly handsome, and now it competes with the MKT for most homely in the lineup. At Detroit this year, I noticed they did a slight refresh to the back end with a long horizontal chrome bar and a void below that almost looked more Chrysler than Lincoln. Between the goofy grille, the tacky chrome bits by the rocker panels, and now this big chrome slab across the back... I can see why almost no one is buying the current model. Edited March 18, 2015 by mustang84isu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2b2 Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 (edited) ^ what chrome bits on the rocker panels?? my complaint** has been the matte black plasstic cladding, did they get rid of THAT? or just add plasschrome outlining/doodadds? ** besides: - they keep changing the WRONG Parts - the fine-tooth baleen grille insert -barf- caNNot believe Max had anything to do with that Edited March 18, 2015 by 2b2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trailhiker Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 The picture shows every make between Hyundai and Subaru...I wouldn't expect that many reveals in one show, especially Rolls and McLaren. I may be wrong, but it looks like place holders for possible reveals, not probable ones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 Continental Concept is confirmed. Here is an internal dev site (no pictures or details yet). http://lincoln.dev.nextgen.teamdetroit.com/continental-concept/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 (edited) Look what I found in the source code: They reveal it will be a 2017 model. Which refers to the Updates dropdown: Edited March 25, 2015 by Intrepidatious 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 So the question is whether this will replace or compliment the MKS? Along with which platform of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
92merc Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 My bet is the old MKS might soldier on for a year or two on existing platform. Just to wait and see if sales of the new product pick up. Personally, I think this is an area, for now at least, that Lincoln could keep this as a Lincoln only platform. Leave the stretched CD4 supposed Taurus update for the Ford line. I am concerned about Lincoln. The new MKC isn't picking up as large of sales as I would like. If the MKX, Continental, Navigator don't pick up more sales, Ford might be better off making high end Platinum models and dump Lincoln. Not that I "want" Lincoln to go away. But I'd say they have 2 more years to straighten this ship out before they need to start making some hard choices whether further investment is the way to go. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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