silvrsvt Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 http://www.detroitnews.com/story/business/autos/detroit-auto-show/2015/01/13/ford-decrease-global-platforms/21730991/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 Hmmm, does that include the GT's platform? Do they currently count the F150/F250+ as 2 different platforms or one? Are they going to 'share' a platform to count as 1 going forward? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bzcat Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 (edited) 1. B platform (Ka/Ikon, Fiesta, B-Max, EcoSport, Transit Courier) 2. C platform (Escort, Focus, C-Max, Escape, MKC, Transit Connect) 3. CD platform (Fusion/Modeo, S-Max, Edge, MKX, Taurus, MKS... does Galaxy come back with S-Max?) 4. D platform (Explorer, MKT, Continental... does Flex come back?) 5. T platform (Ranger, Everest) 6. Mustang 7. Transit (Transit Custom, Transit) 8. F-series Looks like 8 platform count will not include specialty low volume cars like GT, which makes sense. Also, I think "platform" is probably not the best word... I think "8 chassis program" or "8 engineering development program" is better way to call the plan. It's obvious that Ford will not have only 8 platforms in production at any given time. There will always be different version/generation of the same cars in production at various parts of the globe, but the point is that they will be using the same engineering resources. Edited January 15, 2015 by bzcat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2b2 Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 (edited) 1. B platform (Ka/Ikon, Fiesta, B-Max, EcoSport, Transit Courier) 2. C platform (Escort, Focus, C-Max, Escape, MKC, Transit Connect) 3. CD platform (Fusion/Modeo, S-Max, Edge, MKX, Taurus, MKS... does Galaxy come back with S-Max?) 4. D platform (Explorer, MKT, Continental... does Flex come back?) 5. T platform (Ranger, Everest) 6. Mustang 7. Transit (Transit Custom, Transit) 8. F-series Looks like 8 platform count will not include specialty low volume cars like GT, which makes sense. Also, I think "platform" is probably not the best word... I think "8 chassis program" or "8 engineering development program" is better way to call the plan. It's obvious that Ford will not have only 8 platforms in production at any given time. There will always be different version/generation of the same cars in production at various parts of the globe, but the point is that they will be using the same engineering resources. Agree^ tho I like architecture even if that's less accurate & wondering if 1-thru-3 could merge?? Edited January 16, 2015 by 2b2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 Platform #7 and #8 could share components that are used in both architectures....suspension, axles, switchgear.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sullynd Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 Isn't B platform supposed to become derivative of The C platform? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atomcat68 Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 What about that d6 or cd6 or whatever that Lincoln CUV is supposed to be on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bossman351 Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 I think number 4 will disappear and be replaced by the D6 or whatever it will be called. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lfeg Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 The key is global platforms. Super Duty is not a global product, F650/750 are not global products. Ford will continue to have regional platforms to suit regional needs when the profit potential is there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted January 16, 2015 Author Share Posted January 16, 2015 What about that d6 or cd6 or whatever that Lincoln CUV is supposed to be on? From the sounds of it, it might be just a CD4 with a new firewall forward to fit a longitudinal engine into. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theoldwizard Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 Overheard at a party recently. "The next MKS will be significantly different than the Taurus." The person would not go any further than that statement. Personally, I don't see how the CD/EUCD platform can be expanded or the Taurus/Explorer shrunk in order to eliminate the current D4 platform. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted January 16, 2015 Author Share Posted January 16, 2015 Personally, I don't see how the CD/EUCD platform can be expanded or the Taurus/Explorer shrunk in order to eliminate the current D4 platform. The CD4 isn't that far away from D4 platform: Fusion Wheelbase 112.2 Length 191.7 Height 58.2 Width - Ex mirrors 72.9 Width - Incl mirrors 83.5 Width - Mirrors Folded 75.2 Front Track 62.7 Rear Track 62.4 Taurus Wheelbase (in.) 112.9 Length (in.) 202.9 Height (in.) 60.7 Width (in.) (excluding mirrors) 76.2 Width (in.) (including mirrors) 85.7 Width (in.) (mirrors folded) 77.3 Front Track (in.) 65.3 Rear Track (in.) 65.5 Edge Wheelbase 112.2 Length 188.1 Width (excluding mirrors) 75.9 Width (including mirrors) 85.8 Width (mirrors folded) 78.4 Height 68.6 Track, front/rear 64.8/64.7 Explorer Wheelbase 112.6 Length 197.1 Height 69.5 Width - Excluding Mirrors 78.9 Width - Including Mirrors 90.2 Width - Mirrors Folded 82.5 Front Track 67 Rear Track 67 Biggest difference is width/track of the vehicles...and the Taurus is the longest Ford CUV/car in its lineup and it can shrink a bit IMO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bzcat Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 I think number 4 will disappear and be replaced by the D6 or whatever it will be called. So how would #4 disappear if there is a new one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bzcat Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 Isn't B platform supposed to become derivative of The C platform? Sure, just like CD is a derivative of C2... doesn't mean it is the "same". I'm sure they will have separate engineering teams. Ford maybe doing one single flexible FWD architecture but ultimately, it will still have at least 3 different engineering efforts to focus on vehicles in each specific niche. You can't really have the same people working on B-segment city cars and midsize CUVs at the same time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 Sure, just like CD is a derivative of C2... doesn't mean it is the "same". I'm sure they will have separate engineering teams. Ford maybe doing one single flexible FWD architecture but ultimately, it will still have at least 3 different engineering efforts to focus on vehicles in each specific niche. You can't really have the same people working on B-segment city cars and midsize CUVs at the same time. You can if you're a VW PR flak spinning BS for a receptive press............................................. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2b2 Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 (edited) The key is global platforms. Super Duty is not a global product, F650/750 are not global products. Ford will continue to have regional platforms to suit regional needs when the profit potential is there. & swipe From the sounds of it, it might be just a CD4 with a new firewall forward to fit a longitudinal engine into. & tangent (CD6) : how about: Rwd = longitudinal Fwd = transverse Awd = those^ for the petrol + electrics on the non'OILy' wheels = Virtual-Awd & E-wd!! Edited January 16, 2015 by 2b2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustyw85 Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 (edited) & swipe & tangent (CD6) : how about: Rwd = longitudinal Fwd = transverse Awd = those^ for the petrol + electrics on the non'OILy' wheels = Virtual-Awd & E-wd!! I would like to point out that the mythical CD6 platform was originated by TTAC who said their sources was the same that scuttled rumors of a revived GT. http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/201...rwd-crossover/ Edited January 18, 2015 by Dustyw85 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sullynd Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 CD6 is referenced in a Ford Engineers linked-in profile. Same engineer worked on CD4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 CD6 is referenced in a Ford Engineers linked-in profile. Same engineer worked on CD4. And confirmed by other sources. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 (edited) Right. The TTAC level of specificity was partially confirmed and partially denied by better sourced reporting out of Reuters: http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/10/24/us-fordmotor-lincoln-idUSKCN0ID2FU20141024 The springboard for the Lincoln revival plan is a new family of vehicles that will be built on a highly flexible premium platform that can be configured for front-, rear- and all-wheel-drive vehicles, according to industry sources familiar with Ford's plans. The thinking is that the Ford based vehicles will remain FWD/AWD for cost saving purposes, while the Lincoln variants will be RWD/AWD. In this scenario, much of the FWD transaxle will be shared with the AWD equipped vehicles, while the RWD vehicles will share a transmission with other RWD vehicles in the Ford lineup. In fact, significant parts of the FWD transaxle could also be shared with the RWD transmission (not the housing, however). Edited January 18, 2015 by RichardJensen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Except the RWD/AWD Explorer, of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe771476 Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Seems to me that they need to amortize that Mustang platform and come out with a Lincoln retractable hardtop! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron W. Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Seems to me that they need to amortize that Mustang platform and come out with a ( RWD ) Lincoln retractable hardtop! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehaase Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 I doubt that 500 people per year would buy a Lincoln retractable hardtop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Except the RWD/AWD Explorer, of course. Sorry. Fish ain't hitting on that bait today. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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