rshanks66 Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 (edited) I'm hoping with the launch of the new 2015 Mustang platform with the independent rear suspension and new modern engines that Ford will finally develop a couple of Lincolns using that platform.A RWD/AWD 4-door sedan, 2-door coupe and 2-door convertible would be a nice place to start.It must have truly distinct Lincoln styling from the Mustang, not a headlamp/taillight treatment.Has anyone heard any rumors of this?http://jalopnik.com/is-this-proof-the-new-lincoln-mks-going-to-be-mustang-b-510259503 Edited June 29, 2014 by rshanks66 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2b2 Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 ^ Yup but there is SEVERE disagreement about the LincStang (codename: Millenial) some of us firmly believe at least one version will be ON-SALE in less than 24 months others (including an insider) say it isn't happening At All and some other kind of Rwd is at least 2 years FURTHER off (ie 4 years from now) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
30 OTT 6 Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 S550 is a brand new platform. Ford wouldn't spend all that money on an all new platform just for Mustang. My money is riding on a new S550 based RWD Lincoln... or two. If Ford can lengthen and widen CD4 (Fusion/MKZ) for Taurus/MKS they can do it for S550. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 S550 is a brand new platform That's debatable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rshanks66 Posted July 2, 2014 Author Share Posted July 2, 2014 My money is riding on a new S550 based RWD Lincoln... or two. If Ford can lengthen and widen CD4 (Fusion/MKZ) for Taurus/MKS they can do it for S550. Let’s hope Ford extends the Mustang platform for some Lincoln products. It just seems so obvious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rshanks66 Posted July 2, 2014 Author Share Posted July 2, 2014 Besides, my 21 year old Capri is getting old... maybe I'll replace it with a RWD Lincoln convertible based on the Mustang. The retro styling of the Stang is a real turnoff to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 Besides, my 21 year old Capri is getting old... maybe I'll replace it with a RWD Lincoln convertible based on the Mustang. The retro styling of the Stang is a real turnoff to me. Not much "retro" about the 2015 design. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jniffen Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 I'd like to see a 67-68 Cougar theme, similar in size, but more comfort and luxury. Don't make it a 400 HP beast, something with style, class etc. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardK Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 Lincoln needs to break some new ground, instead of just offering a line up that mirrors other luxury brands. A Mustang based model is a great idea. I always thought Mercury could have continued on with some niche models. That is probably only because I am a Mercury fan. Now Lincoln will have to carry on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rshanks66 Posted July 10, 2014 Author Share Posted July 10, 2014 Not much "retro" about the 2015 design. The Ford launch website on the Mustang has numerous videos about the signature design themes and heritage elements. Have you seen that site? It’s totally a retro vehicle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 Making a copy of a 1965 mustang would be retro. Using similar design cues on a modern interpretation is not. The 2015 mustang looks way more modern Aston Martin than vintage mustang overall. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 The Ford launch website on the Mustang has numerous videos about the signature design themes and heritage elements. Have you seen that site? It’s totally a retro vehicle. That's like saying BMW's are retro because they still have kidney grilles. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jniffen Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 Also don't give it the 500+ HP. V8, The Mustang GT500 is a great car, but it's loud etc. If techinically possible, make this car only with AWD, with favoring RWD, not a FWD car wit RWD added. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEATHSTAR Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 I had alot of fun with a bunch of friends who were all into the Mark VII and Mark VIII cars. Some just restored them, while others made some interesting mods and a few that terrorized the dragstrip. The perfect markets to attack, 2 door coupe and convertible, or even wagon, not crossover (to compete with CTS wagon). Build these on a platform that could be timid, quiet and luxurious for some, or high performance and customizable for the under 40 singles that might like track days and like to do it in style. Just a little rant from a Navigator owner, who loves his Mustang too, and has played with a few other fox based vehicles too. I built a Mustang Wagon, but didn't finish it. It was a 1979 Fairmont Wagon and had a 1991 Mustang front clip on it, and I would like another. I have a 1991 Mustang LX 5.0 convertible, for those sunny South Florida evenings. 1982 Granada, I learned to drive on this car, and want to make it really unique. Lincoln Mark VII's, parted a few, want to hot rod one, yes for my very own Hot Rod Lincoln. And the DEATHSTAR! My Black on Black 2006 Navigator, slightl lowered with 23" Saleen S331 wheels. If Darth Vader drove a Lincoln, this wouold be it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 building a CTS wagon competitor is a non starter CTS wagon is dead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StangBang Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 (edited) Lincoln could always rip off another Bentley. Insert the Continental Concept grille and headlamps and poof instant Lincoln Coupe. The greenhouse and roof is so much like the Mustang that they can carry over the parts from the Mustang intact. Actually in the case I think Bentley is trying to ripoff sections of the Mustang just to get even... Edited November 12, 2015 by StangBang Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StangBang Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 (edited) I built a Mustang Wagon, but didn't finish it. It was a 1979 Fairmont Wagon and had a 1991 Mustang front clip on it, and I would like another. I have a 1991 Mustang LX 5.0 convertible, for those sunny South Florida evenings. It would be interesting to see what the 91 Mustang clip looked like on that body and what you did to integrate it since the lines don't interchange or match up. I am a big fan of the front clip interchangeability between the 1978-83 Fairmont/Futura/Zephyr, 1981-82 Granada/Cougar Sedan and Wagon, and 1983-86 LTD/Marquis. Ford of Mexico actually marketed a Ford Elite which was a luxury Fairmont with a 1981-82 Granada front clip and matching rear bumper. You would also find their version of the Fairmont with mix and match parts using Zephyr grilles and taillamps to distinguish different trim levels and model years. Mexico also mixed Capri parts into their various Mustangs using Capri front end clips, taillamps and even the later bubble hatch glass. My favorite front clip swap is the 1983-86 LTD front end onto any 1978-83 Fairmont Futura Coupe. Ford should have held the Futura coupe back two years and made it the Thunderbird with a 1981-82 Granada front clip or offered dual size Thunderbirds for 1978-79 and called the smaller one Thunderbird II or Thunderbird Futura while calling the larger one Thunderbird Heritage. I honestly believe the Thunderbird would have sold better with the familiar basket handle roof design instead of shocking everyone with the boxy poorly proportioned actual 1980 Thunderbird design. The Futura coupe was indeed originally a downsized Thunderbird styling prototype. I also like the front end clip swaps that are possible between the 1977-79 LTD II/Ranchero/Thunderbird, 1974-76 Elite, 1972-76 Montego and 1974-79 Cougar. Lots of interesting phantom model combinations there! Edited November 12, 2015 by StangBang 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StangBang Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 The Ford launch website on the Mustang has numerous videos about the signature design themes and heritage elements. Have you seen that site? It’s totally a retro vehicle. It's not retro. It's evolutionary heritage as if it evolved from the original 1965 2+2 design. Think like how the Porsche 911 style evolved into the model that is offered today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 (edited) I had alot of fun with a bunch of friends who were all into the Mark VII and Mark VIII cars. Some just restored them, while others made some interesting mods and a few that terrorized the dragstrip. The perfect markets to attack, 2 door coupe and convertible, or even wagon, not crossover (to compete with CTS wagon). Build these on a platform that could be timid, quiet and luxurious for some, or high performance and customizable for the under 40 singles that might like track days and like to do it in style. Just a little rant from a Navigator owner, who loves his Mustang too, and has played with a few other fox based vehicles too. There's no need for a Lincoln RWD wagon. The Ford launch website on the Mustang has numerous videos about the signature design themes and heritage elements. Have you seen that site? It’s totally a retro vehicle. The Mustang will always have signature design themes and heritage elements. That's what makes it a Mustang??? Edited November 12, 2015 by rmc523 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehaase Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 I enjoy all the derivatives Ford got off the Fox, Falcon, and Gran Torino platforms.I think the 72-76 Thunderbird, Mark IV, and Mark V also came off the Gran Torino platform. But the 1983 Thunderbird was a revelation for Ford. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StangBang Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 (edited) I enjoy all the derivatives Ford got off the Fox, Falcon, and Gran Torino platforms.I think the 72-76 Thunderbird, Mark IV, and Mark V also came off the Gran Torino platform. But the 1983 Thunderbird was a revelation for Ford. No the 72-76 Thunderbird and Mark IV were much larger cars that shared a longer full-sized platform. The Thunderbird downsized to the mid-sized Torino platform in 1977 and directly replaced it's former larger self and the 74-76 Elite. It lost about a foot in length, some weight and $2000 off it's base price. This resulted in the best ever sales for the history of the Thunderbird nameplate for 1977-79. The distinctive basket handle roofline with the special quarter window and opera window treatments contributed greatly to the uniqueness compared to the conventional quarter window shapes of the LTD II and Cougar. Then the awful 1980 Fox Box Thunderbird tanked it and did not enjoy previous sales success until the 1983 Aerobirds came along. The 77-79 Lincoln Mark V stayed on the previous large Mark IV platform and was technically just a restyle with some weight loss but it never downsized until it went to the Panther platform based Mark VI in 1980. Edited November 13, 2015 by StangBang Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sizzler Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 Cadillac ATS coupe and CTS 4-door sport sedan... Is that what Lincoln should copy? Bring back the Pantera. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 Lincoln shouldn't copy anything. If they build a coupe it will appeal to folks willing to buy a Lincoln and not be built to win magazine comparisons to BMW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2b2 Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 ^ & Cadillac ATS coupe and CTS 4-door sport sedan... Is that what Lincoln should copy? Bring back the Pantera. "Pantera Mafioso"!& ...OR... the LINCOLN vehicle whose platform gets LOANED to the nextgen MusStang Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
630land Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Come up with a business case for the two door and present to Ford HQ. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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