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#121 OFFLINE   BlackHorse

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Posted 06 May 2014 - 11:02 AM

 

The Mazda approach to ever-shrinking sales?  They may get the gas mileage right, but it seems almost everything else is going wrong for them lately.

 

I hadn't heard the skyactive engines were having issues. What's going on with them?


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Posted 06 May 2014 - 11:12 AM

 

I hadn't heard the skyactive engines were having issues. What's going on with them?

 

I was speaking more about the strength of the brand overall, not anything specific of the engines.


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Posted 06 May 2014 - 11:24 AM

 

I hadn't heard the skyactive engines were having issues. What's going on with them?

Haven't heard anything bad about the Gas versions, but the new Diesel has been a disaster. (Why it hasn't launched here)



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Posted 06 May 2014 - 11:42 AM

 

I was speaking more about the strength of the brand overall, not anything specific of the engines.

 

Got it.  I had a Mazda 3 for awhile and it was a pretty good little car.  Had a nice interior, decent motor, got pretty good mpg.  Traded it for the Wrangler.


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Posted 06 May 2014 - 11:45 AM

 

Got it.  I had a Mazda 3 for awhile and it was a pretty good little car.  Had a nice interior, decent motor, got pretty good mpg.  Traded it for the Wrangler.

 

Yeah my Mazda6 was a solid car as well, but it was a 5-speed.  Just got kinda tired of driving a manual every day with traffic getting ever worse around here and they bloated up its replacement with the redesign and I lost interest.  Figured if I was gonna go with a bloated car I'd get one that actually had some utility to it.


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Posted 06 May 2014 - 12:34 PM

Hello all....I came looking for other information, but felt compelled to respond to some comments regarding EB engines I read here.  I have 24,XXX miles on my 2013 Fusion 1.6EB with 6-speed manual.  A very nice package to drive.  I preordered the car and got one of the first in Phoenix.  There were some trim issues that I associated with having one of the first units, but nothing major.  The car has only been to the dealer for the two recalls, though there was no evidence of any issue.  The car does not rattle, and actually draws compliments from passengers regarding the level of quiet.  As for mileage, over more than 23,000 miles the car is averaging 33.5 MPG.  That's probably 75% freeway, with speeds up to 80 and some stop and go thrown in.  It frequently gets full throttle to merge and pass, though in city traffic I tend to drive pretty conservatively, including putting the trans into neutral approaching stop lights, etc.

 

Overall I'm very pleased with the car, and don't have any issue recommending it.



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Posted 06 May 2014 - 12:39 PM

...including putting the trans into neutral approaching stop lights, etc.

 

FYI, that actually hurts your fuel economy with newer cars. Most of them have ADFS (active deceleration fuel shutoff) which actually shuts the fuel off when coasting.  Putting the car in neutral means it has to pump the fuel to keep it idling, whereas leaving it in gear allows it to shut the fuel off and keep coasting.  I'm sure the differences are miniscule, but just a tid bit for ya.  I seem to remember the practice of putting the car in neutral being illegal in some areas as well.

 

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Posted 06 May 2014 - 12:55 PM

 

FYI, that actually hurts your fuel economy with newer cars. Most of them have ADFS (active deceleration fuel shutoff) which actually shuts the fuel off when coasting.  Putting the car in neutral means it has to pump the fuel to keep it idling, whereas leaving it in gear allows it to shut the fuel off and keep coasting.  I'm sure the differences are miniscule, but just a tid bit for ya.  I seem to remember the practice of putting the car in neutral being illegal in some areas as well.

 

At any rate, glad you like your Fusion!

How would you stop a manual at a light then? Either you keep it in neutral or the clutch engaged the whole time at the light can't leave it in gear.



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Posted 06 May 2014 - 01:01 PM

How would you stop a manual at a light then? Either you keep it in neutral or the clutch engaged the whole time at the light can't leave it in gear.

 

Well, obviously you take it out of gear at some point before it stalls on you.


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Posted 06 May 2014 - 01:01 PM

How would you stop a manual at a light then? Either you keep it in neutral or the clutch engaged the whole time at the light can't leave it in gear.

 

You know, I was assuming automatic since he said 'putting the trans in neutral' and not 'taking it out of gear.'

 

If you were referring to the legality, I'm thinking it applies only to automatics.  It has to do with the ability to get the car into gear quickly if necessary and the sheer fact of remembering to do it.  That really doesn't apply to manuals since you are constantly shifting anyway.

 

But, who knows, maybe I mis-remembered about that being illegal.  :)


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Posted 06 May 2014 - 01:52 PM

^ I kinda remember hearing about that being illegal also. Just seems like a pain in the ass to keep taking an auto trans in and out of gear.


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Posted 06 May 2014 - 01:54 PM

^ I kinda remember hearing about that being illegal also. Just seems like a pain in the ass to keep taking an auto trans in and out of gear.

 

Not to mention the fact that I'm sure it's not going the tranny any favors.


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Posted 06 May 2014 - 03:30 PM

FYI, that actually hurts your fuel economy with newer cars. Most of them have ADFS (active deceleration fuel shutoff) which actually shuts the fuel off when coasting.  Putting the car in neutral means it has to pump the fuel to keep it idling, whereas leaving it in gear allows it to shut the fuel off and keep coasting.  I'm sure the differences are miniscule, but just a tid bit for ya.  I seem to remember the practice of putting the car in neutral being illegal in some areas as well.
 
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Posted 06 May 2014 - 03:37 PM

Poster said " I have 24,XXX miles on my 2013 Fusion 1.6EB with 6-speed manual."

 

Well there you have it, I mis-read and didn't catch that part.

 

But, I will stand by the part about it decreasing fuel economy.


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Posted 06 May 2014 - 07:52 PM

^ LOL, I missed that also. I run into very few people who opt for the manual and I just ASSume auto.


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