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Daytime running lights. 2014 super duty


billyjg2007

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Ok here's the update. The dealer can turn them on in a 2014. Just had it done pre delivery. Took 2 minutes, click of the mouse. I guess I'm the only one that's a fan. Lol. But here's the info

For some odd strange rational, Ford refuses to make Daytime Running Lights (DRL`s) standard on its US destined Vehicles. Only Canadian destined Ford Vehicles or those ordered for Fleet Purchase with a valid FIN # can get them in the US. I had to go to 3 different Ford Dealerships before I was able to get one to enable the feature on my 2013 C-Max using the Smart Junction Box and an IDS Programmer. Rumors flew that Ford removed the option in the MY 2013 run and it was no longer a Programmable feature, wrong! As you experienced, a a couple of minutes and with the click of a Mouse as they say, "Let there Be Light"!

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The majority of americans don't want them is why they are not standard. They are annoying and distracting to other drivers and have been found to offer no net reduction in accidents.

Yeah, your correct. Thats why with the exception of Ford, Nissan, Mazda, and (some) Chrysler vehicles, they are "stand equipment on virtually every Car sold in America. The fact that they are required by Law in Canada and most of Europe as a proven safety factor means nothing to exceptional American`s such as yourself. Ever drive in the Florida Keys or on many other highways across the Nation where you see signage that says, "Lights ON For Safety"? Do you find Motorcycles that have their DRL`s on as a distraction and annoying too? Trust our NHTSA to be the best judge of whether DRL`s are a good idea or not. They knew about the GM Ignition Switch problems for years and did and said nothing. Instead of making a decision one way or the other and either "mandate" or make "illegal" daytime Running Lights for US Vehicles, they act as the 3 Monkey`s. See no Evil, Hear no Evil, Speak no Evil!

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There is no hard data that shows a statistically significant safety benefit to DRLs even from the countries where they are mandated. Should they do it just for customer satisfaction? Probably. But auto-headlamps tied to the wipers on all vehicles would be a far bigger safety improvement with tangible benefits.

 

DRLs can only help with cars turning left across oncoming traffic or cars pulling out from a cross street. If they don't bother to look (which I believe is the majority of the accidents) then it doesn't matter whether the oncoming cars have DRLs or not.

 

The only time DRLs can help is if the person actually looks but for some reason doesn't see a huge vehicle coming towards them without DRLs but somehow would see them with DRLs. If the oncoming vehicle is close enough to hit you and you can't see it in broad daylight then I doubt DRLs would help.

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Obviously, you have never driven at 70 plus mph on a limited access Highway with long stretches of passing allowed in (both) directions adding the Suns glare. An oncoming Vehicle, Car or Truck is much more easily identified approaching you with their DRL`s "ON" then a Vehicle that is heading towards you that has no illumination. Damn the statistics, common sense says otherwise. Lets do away with lighting for Motorcycles using that logic.

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Apparently you think I was attacking you in some way, I was not. I simply stated fact.

1. Most americans do not want them.

2. There is NO net reduction in accidents due to them.

3. They ARE distracting in many situations. Designed to attract attention to that particular car, another driver momentarily staring at them might not notice something else that they should see- a pedestrian, animal or debris in the road, another car.

4. They annoy me.

 

Akirby and myself never said anything about motorcycles, nor making them illegal.

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Obviously, you have never driven at 70 plus mph on a limited access Highway with long stretches of passing allowed in (both) directions adding the Suns glare. An oncoming Vehicle, Car or Truck is much more easily identified approaching you with their DRL`s "ON" then a Vehicle that is heading towards you that has no illumination. Damn the statistics, common sense says otherwise. Lets do away with lighting for Motorcycles using that logic.

 

If you can't clearly see that there is no oncoming traffic then you shouldn't be passing anyone. That's a ridiculous argument.

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Why don`t you find Motorcycles that have their Headlamps illuminated during the Daytime "annoying"? If either one of your Gentleman ever drive down US #1 through Monroe County and the Florida Key`s, you will note the Signage "Lights ON For Safety". Its either a (good) idea or a (bad) concept. Rule one way or the other to either Mandate DRL`s or finally rid them of all US Vehicles in the future. Why not make Directional Signal Indicators (optional) as well? 90% of Floridians, including the Police never use them anyway. Let`s see, Bluetooth, Automatic Headlamp Switches, Braking and Lane Warning Indicators, Rear View Monitors but (no) automatic Directional Signal activators, why? I`m sure you have a(logical) explanation. You still haven`t addressed your premise that a majority of "Americans" don`t want DRL`s yet 90% of all Vehicles, Cars and Trucks sold in the US are equipped with them already. As previously stated, Mazda, Ford (except Fleet Sales) Chrysler (some Vehicles) and Nissan are the lone holdouts, just saying........

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If eliminating a feature on a Vehicle because it simply "annoys" you, I have a long list. Bluetooth, Sync, Voice Activated Functionality. How about removing not only the Spare Tire and Jack Assembly but now the small Emergency Donut too! Enjoy your Can of Tire Sealant Goo (that will foul your (TPS) a non- Warranty covered item after using the Goo and see if your $5.00 toy air inflator will fix your sidewall puncture. Bet you`ve made a lot of fuss about the Spare Tire disappearing, huh?

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The sunload sensor has nothing to do with DRL operation. It supplies an input for autolamp operation and to the HVAC for heating and cooling. DRL's are lights (sans markers) that are on anytime the key is on. They used to be dim versions of the low beams only, but the current crop (super bright LED's) are blinding to oncoming traffic.

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