Obamacare-Because this needs it's own thread

[RangerM]

The republican party lies, They are either crooks or very stupid. The assholes here posting are both. Lets see how their threats turn out about paying American bills. Go ahead and shoot yourself in the head to be a racist against our great President. I for one welcome low cost health care that the republicans are fighting. Fuck them!

Gary

Obamacare does nothing to the cost of healthcare; only the price, which goes up for most.

The price of health insurance is masked under a subsidy, but the price + subsidy do not match the cost.

Many will find that their low-PRICE insurance isn't universally accepted, and they will incur the cost.

Remember that when you're calling others names.

Edited September 27, 2013 by RangerM

[napfirst]

......can't wait for the stories to start Tues. with people in front of the cameras saying "I thought it was going to be free"

[Langston Hughes]

I don't think so....if there's any response at all from him it will be his usual sophomoric banter.....he's a mental midget.....like you he thinks that using four letter words helps make his point.....another miss..but I'm sure GaryG appreciates your confidence in him...

 

I'm fairly sure that i did not express any confidence in him doing anything but escalating the situation. What that means to you is obviously different than what i had in mind, but I figure that he'll raise his level of excitement for lack of a better word to a much higher level.

[Langston Hughes]

......can't wait for the stories to start Tues. with people in front of the cameras saying "I thought it was going to be free"

 

Unfortunately there will be those people, but thankfully they will pale in comparison to the stories of "I thought it would ruin America and it didn't."

[Langston Hughes]

I do have to offer BlackHorse an apology. It seems that bigotry is alive and well within African American political types. I'm sorry that i didn't believe you, but with the most recent anti-Semitic outburst of conservative Allen West it occurs to me that i'm wrong, it is not just conservative white people who are bigots. It's also the few African Americans who are within the RNC and the Tea Party. Can you forgive me for not seeing this earlier?

 

http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/2013-09-26/news/sfl-allen-west-fired-20130926_1_democrat-patrick-murphy-allen-west-buzzfeed

 

And i love this poll. Lets play which votes are the conservatives.

 

 

Should Allen West have lost his job for using the phrase "Jewish American Princess?"

Poll: Should Allen West have lost his job for using the phrase "Jewish American Princess?"

• Yes. A comment like that is inappropriate in the workplace. (233 responses)

  26%

• No. It's political correctness run amok. (327 responses)

  36%

• Yes. West is a bully who shouldn't be in public life. (316 responses)

  35%

• No. The left will take it as a victory. (33 responses)

  4%

909 total responses

Edited September 27, 2013 by Langston Hughes

[BlackHorse]

Oh look, more deflection from Langston, the local expert at deflection and changing the subject when the topic isn't going his way.

 

I couldn't care less what Allen West said. We could go back and forth into eternity with examples from both side of things that people said that other people didn't like.

It doesn't change reality and here is reality.

 

1. The heart and soul of the democrat party is socialism, even if you can't admit it.

 

2. There are just as many racist bigots on the left as there are on the right, even if you can't admit it.

Edited September 28, 2013 by BlackHorse

[Langston Hughes]

Oh look, more deflection from Langston, the local expert at deflection and changing the subject when the topic isn't going his way.

 

I couldn't care less what Allen West said. We could go back and forth into eternity with examples from both side of things that people said that other people didn't like.

It doesn't change reality and here is reality.

 

1. The heart and soul of the democrat party is socialism, even if you can't admit it.

 

2. There are just as many racist bigots on the left as there are on the right, even if you can't admit it.

 

It's not deflection. i just didn't want to start a new thread just for Allen West and the continuing examples of conservative bigotry.

[BlackHorse]

It's not deflection. i just didn't want to start a new thread just for Allen West and the continuing examples of conservative bigotry.

 

 

While you're at it be sure to look up examples of liberals who are bigots and racist, there are plenty of them, even if you can't bring yourself to admit it on this forum. I think all of us here know of one for sure.

[FiredMotorCompany]

While you're at it be sure to look up examples of liberals who are bigots and racist, there are plenty of them, even if you can't bring yourself to admit it on this forum. I think all of us here know of one for sure.

Why would he admit to or provide evidence that he and his ilk are equally guilty.

Don't hold your breath waiting for that confession.

Edited September 29, 2013 by FiredMotorCompany

[BlackHorse]

Why would he admit to or provide evidence that he and his ilk are equally guilty.
Don't hold your breath waiting for that confession.

 

 

 

 

I'm not. I'm just reminding him of his own hypocrisy in the matter.

[FiredMotorCompany]

Double post

Edited September 29, 2013 by FiredMotorCompany

[Langston Hughes]

While you're at it be sure to look up examples of liberals who are bigots and racist, there are plenty of them, even if you can't bring yourself to admit it on this forum. I think all of us here know of one for sure.

 

Why don't you do that? I'm only here to be the counter point to conservative hypocrisy. You personally bang the drum about Rev Al and Jesse so i remind you of the conservatives who do the same thing. how many times have we heard that blacks only voted for Obama because of his race and yet he only picked up 5% more votes than the for average for other candidates who were white.

 

So if you were going to say that 5% of all African American votes were because of skin color, your pretty much talking about all races then. But your not out finding the 5% of Caucasians that voted because of skin color, so back at you.

Understand that you do what your supposed to and i'll do what i'm supposed and we will go back and forth because your not here showing how your side is bigoted anymore than I am. Just another hypocritical circular bullshit logic game where you suggest my side is racist and when i do the same you blast me for doing what you do.

[Langston Hughes]

Why would he admit to or provide evidence that he and his ilk are equally guilty.

Don't hold your breath waiting for that confession.

 

You do realize that you and he have both suggested liberals have acted on racial motivation without showing where your own side has done the same? That's what he's calling me out for, the same things you and he do. That makes him 2x hypocritical.

[RangerM]

I think what upsets conservatives like myself is being told that MY motives are race based.

 

Like being accused of racism/prejudice, it begins to fall on deaf ears, and we no longer have meaningful dialogue.

[napfirst]

Some low information voters are sure going to be surprised tomorrow

 

 

Obamacare Website Quietly Deletes Reference to 'Free Health Care'

http://weeklystandard.com/blogs/obamacare-website-quietly-deletes-reference-free-health-care_757348.html

 

[Langston Hughes]

I think what upsets conservatives like myself is being told that MY motives are race based.

 

Like being accused of racism/prejudice, it begins to fall on deaf ears, and we no longer have meaningful dialogue.

 

I can understand that, but what i have said is that there is a racial problem within the Republican/conservative voting bloc and more specifically the Tea Party. forgive me if i haven't said this, but there are many thoughtful people that vote conservative without any racial motivation. I've told you many times that i don't find you to be the least bit prejudice in your replies. We have thoughtful discussions concerning our ideas of why things are and what/why they seem to be.

 

We all understand that a majority of society self-segregates, that is moves towards those that are like themselves, whether it be race, economic status, hobbies and such. Now that segregation can and does look different depending where you are at, but of course the three biggest are Economic, Race/ethnicity and Gender. I believe that it's pretty close to 50/50 movement towards commom denominators and away from uncommon. You might differ on that.

[Langston Hughes]

Some low information voters are sure going to be surprised tomorrow

 

 

Obamacare Website Quietly Deletes Reference to 'Free Health Care'

 

There are low information voters on both sides of this issue and I think probably pretty close to equally.

[BlackHorse]

Why don't you do that? I'm only here to be the counter point to conservative hypocrisy. You personally bang the drum about Rev Al and Jesse so i remind you of the conservatives who do the same thing. how many times have we heard that blacks only voted for Obama because of his race and yet he only picked up 5% more votes than the for average for other candidates who were white.

 

So if you were going to say that 5% of all African American votes were because of skin color, your pretty much talking about all races then. But your not out finding the 5% of Caucasians that voted because of skin color, so back at you.

Understand that you do what your supposed to and i'll do what i'm supposed and we will go back and forth because your not here showing how your side is bigoted anymore than I am. Just another hypocritical circular bullshit logic game where you suggest my side is racist and when i do the same you blast me for doing what you do.

 

I'm not blasting you for anything Langston. I'm just pointing out reality and that always bothers socialists because they live in a world of fantasy. There are bigots and racists on both side of the political spectrum. You love to point out how white conservatives are racists. I'm just reminding you of the many black racists that live in this country. That is just reality. You can either accept it or you can continue to live in your little fantasy, I couldn't care less.

[Langston Hughes]

I'm not blasting you for anything Langston. I'm just pointing out reality and that always bothers socialists because they live in a world of fantasy. There are bigots and racists on both side of the political spectrum. You love to point out how white conservatives are racists. I'm just reminding you of the many black racists that live in this country. That is just reality. You can either accept it or you can continue to live in your little fantasy, I couldn't care less.

 

There are probably many black racists, but i'm going to do a little experiment here. If 10% of both populations are bigots and i' just throwing out a number, it could be more of less, which race would have more racists? Now lets move into the real world where if ten percent of all the people doing the hiring are racists, who faces a greater chance of being discriminated against?

 

You should start asking yourself these questions when you think about racism. We know that still in this day and age that the majority of business owners, of corporate execs are Caucasian and if you take 10% of both races that occupy these slots, your going to end up with a much greater chance that African Americans are going to be discriminated against.

 

We could go on and on but you just want to point out something. Your not sure either what it is, but you know you need to point it out.

[BlackHorse]

If 10% of the carp you posted on this forum had even a modicum of common sense we might be able to say that you had a cogent thought. But that's not going to happen because you live in your little socialist fantasy paranoia.

[FiredMotorCompany]

You should start asking yourself these questions when you think about racism. We know that still in this day and age that the majority of business owners, of corporate execs are Caucasian and if you take 10% of both races that occupy these slots, your going to end up with a much greater chance that African Americans are going to be discriminated against.

BS ALERT!!!!!

 

What a bunch of crap. 100 people, 13 "African-American" or Negro, since you exclude whites born in Africa because of their race from the "African American" "race" and 87 "Caucasians.

 

If you take 10% of both races you have 1 African American and 9 Caucasians. At no point was discrimination proven. Especially racial discrimination. And you are trying to character assassinate conservative Caucasians because they are the majority population.

 

Perhaps the reason there are more Caucasian business executives is because "White Men Can't Jump".

[Langston Hughes]

Good one Black horse. If even 10 percent of your mind thought for itself you'd understand the point. Alas you can't.

[Langston Hughes]

Fired, Caucasians born in Africa are still Caucasian. It should be obvious to you that they are not African Americans under the understood definition of such.

[FiredMotorCompany]

Parsing the phrase, "African-American" reveals the obvious use of the title of two continents that can also be considered common names for individual countries.

Caucasian refers to a region of Europe.

 

None of these refer to skin color, as you are directly trying to associate with your usage of "African-American". At one time, "Black is Beautiful" was a proudly proclaimed self-assured proclamation. Today, even blacks are reluctant to use the word, and use P.C. speech instead.

 

Call these groups by their skin color or not. Your use of code words for skin color is disingenuous.

Code words are code words.

 

 

 

 

It really doesn't matter to me what skin color someone is, but these word games do an injustice to real conversation about race.

[Langston Hughes]

Parsing the phrase, "African-American" reveals the obvious use of the title of two continents that can also be considered common names for individual countries.

Caucasian refers to a region of Europe.

 

None of these refer to skin color, as you are directly trying to associate with your usage of "African-American". At one time, "Black is Beautiful" was a proudly proclaimed self-assured proclamation. Today, even blacks are reluctant to use the word, and use P.C. speech instead.

 

Call these groups by their skin color or not. Your use of code words for skin color is disingenuous.

Code words are code words.

 

It really doesn't matter to me what skin color someone is, but these word games do an injustice to real conversation about race.

 

Your being purposely foolish and petty.

 

African american is a word that is understood and basically accepted to mean a Black American of historic slave descent. I use it almost interchangeably with Black American and your are aware that most people do. It's not by any means a code word, but rather a descriptive term used as I've stated before to describe a group of people who have limited ability to determine country of origin.

 

 

Those who would lynch him,

 

that was an obvious code word as you referring to blacks while trying to act like you weren't. When I say "African American" I am describing blacks of slave descent and not trying to act like I am not. That is the difference. On a personal note, an ex-girlfriend's kids don't consider themselves "African American" because their father was from Senegal and emigrated over here in the 90's despite being black. They consider themselves black and separate from the history and experience of African Americans.