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2014 Ford Fusion Changes (adds 1.5L EcoBoost engine, Cooled Seats, Heated Wheel)


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#161 OFFLINE   silvrsvt

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Posted 16 April 2013 - 07:20 AM

why does the Focus St have lower fuel economy than the regular focus?

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Because its a "performance" variant of the Focus? It only has 65 more or so more HP then the lesser Foci models 

 

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the EB16 vs the EB20 only yields an additional combined 2 MPG,  the EB35 only yields 1 combined MPG better than the 5.0 yet ford still offers and buyers are buying the EB16 and the EB35.

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Not the best of examples....what is the dealer stocking levels? Given that most Fusion sales are 1.6L SE models vs Ti models, there is going to be skew in the sales numbers. 


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#162 OFFLINE   Biker16

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Posted 16 April 2013 - 08:01 AM

Electric water pumps?  Wow, that would be sad.  Water pump is one accessory part on the engine you usually don't worry about until after 100K.  

 

electric water-pumps, AC, Power steering, etc

 

the issue is engine heat does not increase with engine speed, so having a fixed amount of cooling available at a fixed engine speed means you are over cooling the engine and wasting power pumping water around a closed thermostat.  Using a better cooling system means Ford can increase compression ratios without resorting to fuel dumping to decrease cylinder temperatures.


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#163 OFFLINE   mettech

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Posted 16 April 2013 - 08:23 AM

Even Superchargers will be electric soon.


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Posted 16 April 2013 - 08:27 AM

Because its a "performance" variant of the Focus? It only has 65 more or so more HP then the lesser Foci models 

 

It has 90 more HP than the base focus models.

 

the St proves Your point and disproves Your point.

 

the St is rated the same 26mpg as the Fusion GTDI 20, the numbers are different  23/32 vs the Fusion's 22/33 but even the 12hp (5%) increase in power does not hurt economy, but both number are well off the economy numbers from the base focus 29/40 or 29/38.

 

hypothetically an Ecoboost 10 with

140hp @6000rpm

150ft/lbs of torque @4000rpm

 

vs the current 2.0

160hp @6500rpm

145ft/lbs @4450rpm

 

I just don't think

A) buyers will care About the 20hp given up

B) buyers will mind givng up 20hp for 4-6 additional MPGs

C) Buyer will even notice the Difference.

 

Not the best of examples....what is the dealer stocking levels? Given that most Fusion sales are 1.6L SE models vs Ti models, there is going to be skew in the sales numbers. 

 

there is a difference if Ford brings out a new fusion that is rated at 24/33mpg and Nissan has the Altima at 27/38mpg.

 

whether you agree with this or not, people are making buying decisions based on a 1-2 difference in MPG.


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#165 OFFLINE   Biker16

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Posted 16 April 2013 - 09:34 AM

the current 2.0 vs the competition

160hp @6500rpm

145ft/lbs @4450rpm

29/40

 

civic

140hp @6500rpm

128ft/lbs @4300rpm

29/41

 

Sentra

130hp@ 6000rpm

128ft/lbs @3600rpm

30/40

 

Corolla

132hp @6000rpm

128ft/lbs @4400

27/34

 

Elantra

148hp@6500

131 ft/lbs @4700rpm

28/38

 

Mazda3

155hp@6000 rpm

148ft/lbs @4100 Rpm

28/40


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#166 OFFLINE   bjvoldan

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Posted 27 May 2013 - 04:59 PM

Do you guys think that the dealer would be able to add cooled seats to the existing 2013 Ford Fusion seats possibly?



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Posted 27 May 2013 - 08:38 PM

Do you guys think that the dealer would be able to add cooled seats to the existing 2013 Ford Fusion seats possibly?

 

No, not easily.



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Posted 06 March 2014 - 09:30 AM

Hopefully I am picking up a 2014 Fusion Titanium in Sunset Metallic tomorrow afternoon...... fingers crossed my wife doesn't cut my nuts off me....


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