theoldwizard Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 I heard a little more about 7X: Rumor is that it will be a 7.3L V-8. Some say it will be pushrod, others SOHC. I am betting on the latter because I think this engine will be based on the 6.2L Shades of the original Hurricane ! Management kept asking why GM was sticking with pushrods when Ford Engineering wanted SOHC. Obviously the engineers convinced them of the merits. Where is the current 6.2L built and is the assumption that the new engine will be built in the same location ? Direct injection was mentioned, and turbochargers were NOT mentioned. Look for it in late 2019 as a 2020 MY. Direct injection IS a possibility because of the emission standards on that class vehicle allow higher NOx. The big question I have is will 7X be available in F-250/350 pickups? So far all I hear is that it will replace the 6.8L V-10 in those applications that still use it. That sounds like a lot of engine for the F250, but if the is a true replacement for the 6.2L, what else do they have ? It also has to fit in the E350/E450 which is still King of the Class C motorhome market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sevensecondsuv Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 Ok now we need a new thread "Why is it taking so long for the 7X to come out?" lol 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sevensecondsuv Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 And let's remember that Ford's official reason for dropping the V10 from the F250 was "it no longer met NVH targets". Which we all knew was a bunch of bunk because they'd still happily sell you the same engine in the cab/chassis version of the super duty AND the 3/4 ton vans. Let the buyer decide if it has too much NVH for their tastes or not. Anyways, let's hope that this new 7X has less NVH than the V10 so that Ford, in their eternal better judgment, will let us peons have the engine of our dreams in the F250. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 I don't expect it to replace the 6.2L, but be in addition to. I expect the 6.2L to be available in the F250 and the 6.2L and 7.3L to be available in the F350, with 7.3L only above F350. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sevensecondsuv Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 That would be a reasonable application of the engines. Just don't make the 7.3 not available with a bed like the V10 currently is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stray Kat Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 Hey gang follow the like for possible photos of the new 7X engine. My opinion? It's a pushrod engine because I don't see much space at the front of the engine where the cam drives would live on an OHC. Could be all wrong. Who knows...... http://www.yellowbullet.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2367362&highlight=windsor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7Mary3 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 I agree, the engine in those photos looks like a pushrod engine, but we don't know if it actually is the 7X. One rumor has the 7X as an all-new engine family, a 7.3L to replace the 6.8L and a smaller 5.8L to replace the 6.2L. Don't know if I believe that yet, but I do remember a 5.8L version of the 6.2L 'Boss' was proposed at one point. I still think a tall deck 6.2L is most plausible. It seems that GM may be working on a tall deck 6.0L LS for their medium trucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stray Kat Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 Sure would like to kick over some more stones regarding the new engine. Rumors, specifics, release dates......anything. Anyone hear anything new? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelyD Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 (edited) Hey gang follow the like for possible photos of the new 7X engine. My opinion? It's a pushrod engine because I don't see much space at the front of the engine where the cam drives would live on an OHC. Could be all wrong. Who knows...... http://www.yellowbullet.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2367362&highlight=windsor What makes you believe it is a Ford engine? Edited December 21, 2017 by SteelyD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelyD Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 I agree, the engine in those photos looks like a pushrod engine, but we don't know if it actually is the 7X. One rumor has the 7X as an all-new engine family, a 7.3L to replace the 6.8L and a smaller 5.8L to replace the 6.2L. Don't know if I believe that yet, but I do remember a 5.8L version of the 6.2L 'Boss' was proposed at one point. I still think a tall deck 6.2L is most plausible. It seems that GM may be working on a tall deck 6.0L LS for their medium trucks. It's more than plausible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stray Kat Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 For heavens sake why would one need to raise the deck to get a mere 7.0 liters? If they're raising the deck this thing is going bigger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Rosadini Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 Some good news; Trailer-Body Builders / December 20, 2017 Nestlé Waters North America is deploying more than 400 additional medium-duty ReadyRefresh by Nestlé beverage delivery trucks fueled by propane autogas. Nestle operates nearly 600 of these trucks, which make up about 30% of its total North American fleet. ReadyRefresh’s additional Ford F-650/750 delivery trucks are equipped with a Roush CleanTech propane autogas fuel system that provides 55 usable gallons of fuel. “With propane being domestically produced, it’s proven to have a more stable cost per gallon, while the fueling and maintenance infrastructures are much more cost effective than other alternative fuel options,” said Bill Ardis, national fleet manager for ReadyRefresh. The company has been running propane autogas vehicles since 2014, beginning with five Class 5 vehicles.The fuel system is certified to 0.05 grams per brake horsepower-hour for nitrogen oxide (NOx). It is 75% cleaner than the current Environmental Protection Agency standard, and 99% cleaner than diesel vehicles built before 2007. “We are excited about this strategic endeavor that will ultimately drive awareness, efficiency and sustainability,” said Robert Austin, director of supply chain for ReadyRefresh. “Our new fleet will ensure that ReadyRefresh is poised to meet our consumer’s needs and the delivery of our great brands while improving our environment.” Roush said propane autogas is the third most commonly used vehicle fuel, following gasoline and diesel. Nestlé Waters North America plans to replace more older delivery vehicles with propane autogas to reach its goal of operating 52% on the alternative fuel by 2019. . 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trailhiker Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 I miss the good old days when people just dug a hole in the ground to get water! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 I miss the good old days when people just dug a hole in the ground to get water! Nothing beats water straight out of the ground. Thats what we have at our house! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 (edited) Nothing beats water straight out of the ground. Thats what we have at our house! Eh, depends on the area. Theres a few places Ive been in Michigan where you're better off bringing water from home than using what comes out of the ground. Edited December 22, 2017 by fuzzymoomoo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 Nothing beats water straight out of the ground. Thats what we have at our house! Eh, depends on the area. Theres a few places Ive been in Michigan where you're better off bringing water from home than using what comes out of the ground. . Well, there's always this... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelyD Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 Lot of ethanol farmers around me. Wells are tainted with nitrogen fertilizer. Gunks up the coffee makers. Bottled for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbone Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 Lot of ethanol farmers around me. Wells are tainted with nitrogen fertilizer. Gunks up the coffee makers. Bottled for me. Interesting, have you had your well tested to verify your water is tainted with nitrogen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbone Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 Eh, depends on the area. Theres a few places Ive been in Michigan where you're better off bringing water from home than using what comes out of the ground. If it has a lot of sulfur in it I understand, lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelyD Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 Interesting, have you had your well tested to verify your water is tainted with nitrogen? Yes, tested before I bought the house. They convinced that it was not a big deal. Safe to drink except pregnant women and so on. I have sediment filters and a neutralizer. Had a reverse osmosis unit. Water tasted horrible. Disconnected that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 Eh, depends on the area. Theres a few places Ive been in Michigan where you're better off bringing water from home than using what comes out of the ground. Well I meant clean water... But yeah I get your point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fgts Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 I agree, the engine in those photos looks like a pushrod engine, but we don't know if it actually is the 7X. One rumor has the 7X as an all-new engine family, a 7.3L to replace the 6.8L and a smaller 5.8L to replace the 6.2L. Don't know if I believe that yet, but I do remember a 5.8L version of the 6.2L 'Boss' was proposed at one point. I still think a tall deck 6.2L is most plausible. It seems that GM may be working on a tall deck 6.0L LS for their medium trucks. The gorilla in the room is the Navistar/GM MD, what engine will those trucks have. The Duramax v8 and 6.0 is a given, what else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 (edited) The engine in the photo link looks suspiciously like the defunct GM 8.1 Vortec, Edited December 24, 2017 by jpd80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 Where is the current 6.2L built and is the assumption that the new engine will be built in the same location ? No, the 6.2 Boss is built at Romeo engine plant, Michigan The 7X is going to be assembled in the Annex plant, next to Windsor Engine(TMEP) apparently, that used to be a low volume line for the mod engines Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelyD Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 (edited) The gorilla in the room is the Navistar/GM MD, what engine will those trucks have. The Duramax v8 and 6.0 is a given, what else. Godzilla vs. King Kong. Edited December 25, 2017 by SteelyD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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