Deanh Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 Ineligible Products for AXZ-Plans • Fiesta S (100A) · Note: Fiesta S (100A) eligible for AZ-Plan only • Focus Electric • Focus ST • C-Max Energi • Mustang Boss 302 • 2013 Mustang Shelby GT500 • F-150 SVT Raptor • F-550 and above • Stripped Chassis • E-450 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadManMoon Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 Boo! Had my heart set on a C-MAX Energi with X-Plan. May have to settle for the C-MAX Hybrid (if it is, in fact, X-Plan-eligible), depending on the price difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 What the heck is a Fiesta S? That sucks about the Focus ST.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonj80 Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 I wouldn't be surprised to see the Focus ST added after 6months or a year to the plan programs. I think the Fusion Energi will not be available either when it launches next year. I'm pretty sure the C-Max will be available - saw they released pricing for it as well -- starts at 26k, which isn't to bad. Also any one know if the C-Max Energi qualify for HOV Access in California? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 Don't forget that just because it's not on the list that doesn't mean you can find a dealer willing to sell one on A/Z/X/D Plan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted May 17, 2012 Author Share Posted May 17, 2012 (edited) Don't forget that just because it's not on the list that doesn't mean you can find a dealer willing to sell one on A/Z/X/D Plan. actually thats incorrect, there wont even be an A plan price listed and ford will not re-imburse money to the dealer, thus the dealer would have to sell the car for an out and out loss....very doubtful on low volume "halo" cars at least. Edited May 17, 2012 by Deanh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 actually thats incorrect, there wont even be an A plan price listed and ford will not re-imburse money to the dealer, thus the dealer would have to sell the car for an out and out loss....very doubtful on low volume "halo" cars at least. You misread my post. Even if the car IS A/Z/D/X plan ELIGIBLE, that doesn't mean you can find a dealer willing to accept a plan purchase on it. E.g. the first year that the 2005 GTs were out my dealer would not accept plan purchases on them. The next year they would accept plan purchases on coupes but not convertibles. If the Focus ST sells as well as expected then I doubt many dealers would accept plan sales on them. So whether or not they're excluded by Ford doesn't matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted May 17, 2012 Author Share Posted May 17, 2012 You misread my post. Even if the car IS A/Z/D/X plan ELIGIBLE, that doesn't mean you can find a dealer willing to accept a plan purchase on it. E.g. the first year that the 2005 GTs were out my dealer would not accept plan purchases on them. The next year they would accept plan purchases on coupes but not convertibles. If the Focus ST sells as well as expected then I doubt many dealers would accept plan sales on them. So whether or not they're excluded by Ford doesn't matter. gotcha, and correct, although I dont think we refused any. Ironically there IS A plan pricing on previous years GT500's..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 gotcha, and correct, although I dont think we refused any. Ironically there IS A plan pricing on previous years GT500's..... So just have to wait a year and see how they sell...then check again to see if a plan price is offered... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 So just have to wait a year and see how they sell...then check again to see if a plan price is offered... Yep. Or if they're not selling well then dealers may be willing to make a deal without a plan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 (edited) According to another message board, Lisa Schoder, Focus ST brand manager announced that plan pricing will be available for the Focus ST on the ST facebook page.... So the plot thickens.... I couldnt find the post on Facebook myself, but the person who posted it works for Ford (I think) so I don't doubt it Edited May 29, 2012 by silvrsvt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted May 30, 2012 Author Share Posted May 30, 2012 According to another message board, Lisa Schoder, Focus ST brand manager announced that plan pricing will be available for the Focus ST on the ST facebook page.... So the plot thickens.... I couldnt find the post on Facebook myself, but the person who posted it works for Ford (I think) so I don't doubt it forget facebook, ST is not available for plan pricing. And THATS from the horses mouth.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 forget facebook, ST is not available for plan pricing. And THATS from the horses mouth.. But what do horses know about Ford's pricing plans?? :poke: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PREMiERdrum Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 But what do horses know about Ford's pricing plans?? :poke: The only horses we tend to get around here are dead ones... :beatdeadhorse: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted May 30, 2012 Author Share Posted May 30, 2012 But what do horses know about Ford's pricing plans?? :poke: a lot more than someone on FACEBOOK, that PRESUMABLY works for ford.....probably called Wilbur. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron W. Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 Mr. Ed drives a Focus ST.. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted May 30, 2012 Author Share Posted May 30, 2012 Mr. Ed drives a Focus ST.. ? according to his Facebook page ....YES....lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 (edited) forget facebook, ST is not available for plan pricing. And THATS from the horses mouth.. Lisa Schoder, Focus ST brand manager announced that plan pricing will be available for the Focus ST on the ST facebook page For more about Lisa...see below http://jalopnik.com/...ask-me-anything I think that horse thinks otherwise.... Edited May 30, 2012 by silvrsvt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted May 30, 2012 Author Share Posted May 30, 2012 (edited) Lisa Schoder, Focus ST brand manager announced that plan pricing will be available for the Focus ST on the ST facebook page For more about Lisa...see below http://jalopnik.com/...ask-me-anything I think that horse thinks otherwise.... sounds like a Starbux bet to me.....initially at least i doubt it as allocation will be scarce to say the least. Ironically even with my doubts I can dummy an order up and BINGO theres A-plan...so who knows, all i know is what I initially posted was a notification from ford itself....that said i have the pink on the fiesta....everybody go HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM.......lol Edited May 30, 2012 by Deanh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 sounds like a Starbux bet to me.....initially at least i doubt it as allocation will be scarce to say the least. Ironically even with my doubts I can dummy an order up and BINGO theres A-plan...so who knows, all i know is what I initially posted was a notification from ford itself....that said i have the pink on the fiesta....everybody go HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM.......lol LOL yeah I know but it looks like things have changed...not trying to be an ass...trust me I was suprised as you are..makes the decision in getting my next car harder lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted May 30, 2012 Author Share Posted May 30, 2012 LOL yeah I know but it looks like things have changed...not trying to be an ass...trust me I was suprised as you are..makes the decision in getting my next car harder lol no offence taken, Fords "rules" are an ever changing target, they say one thing one day and the rules change the next...most annoying, the BIGGEST cluster f#$%k was the Raptor debaucle......but thats another LONGER story.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 Let me repeat - just because plan sales are allowed by Ford does not force the dealer to accept it. Hopefully they will but it depends on the supply, demand and the dealer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted May 30, 2012 Author Share Posted May 30, 2012 Let me repeat - just because plan sales are allowed by Ford does not force the dealer to accept it. Hopefully they will but it depends on the supply, demand and the dealer. It will be interesting if Orders come out of overall allocation...THAt will be telling. Because if it doesnt I dont beleive a dealer will have any issues ordering a vehicle for a plan member. ( Me for instance ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 It will be interesting if Orders come out of overall allocation...THAt will be telling. Because if it doesnt I dont beleive a dealer will have any issues ordering a vehicle for a plan member. ( Me for instance ) I wish Ford would do that across the board like they've done for specific vehicles in the past. This would allow a customer to order from the dealer of their choice without worrying about whether the dealer has allocation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted May 30, 2012 Author Share Posted May 30, 2012 I wish Ford would do that across the board like they've done for specific vehicles in the past. This would allow a customer to order from the dealer of their choice without worrying about whether the dealer has allocation. well, in sincerity that prevents certain dealers hogging the market....so i understand the restraints...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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