Burning Koran = killing people and we apologize?

[cal50]

I have to scratch my head after watching the news today. The latest flare up is people being killed for someone burning Koran's. Are those people truly that fanatical and stupid to kill others (and 2 us service men) over burning of some books? That is hard to comprehend but the apologies flowing from Washington is even more asinine.

 

1)Koran burned.

2) People killed as a result

3) We apologize to the people that killed our people.

 

Some people think Obama and his admin is doing a "good" job. I can live with that fallacy but basically kissing the ass of people that killed our guys is beyond justifiable.

 

If anything this shows the true mentality of the people your trying to "deal" with or have play nice. Its no different than people rioting for sneakers in Florida today. Pretty stupid but no one died yet. Some people do not have the basic sense animals are born with. If someone burned bibles I doubt there would be retaliation from Catholics or other religions.

 

I only hope their desire for a nuke comes true and Israel or someone else gives it to them.

[fmccap]

. Are those people truly that fanatical and stupid to kill others (and 2 us service men) over burning of some books?

1) That's why we should not be there in the first place. This has been going on for thousands of years.

2)Show the American people the evidence.

 

WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION, TAKE TWO

[retro-man]

I have to scratch my head after watching the news today. The latest flare up is people being killed for someone burning Koran's. Are those people truly that fanatical and stupid to kill others (and 2 us service men) over burning of some books? That is hard to comprehend but the apologies flowing from Washington is even more asinine.

 

1)Koran burned.

2) People killed as a result

3) We apologize to the people that killed our people.

 

Some people think Obama and his admin is doing a "good" job. I can live with that fallacy but basically kissing the ass of people that killed our guys is beyond justifiable.

 

If anything this shows the true mentality of the people your trying to "deal" with or have play nice. Its no different than people rioting for sneakers in Florida today. Pretty stupid but no one died yet. Some people do not have the basic sense animals are born with. If someone burned bibles I doubt there would be retaliation from Catholics or other religions.

 

I only hope their desire for a nuke comes true and Israel or someone else gives it to them.

I agree. The apology makes me cringe.

[cal50]

1) That's why we should not be there in the first place. This has been going on for thousands of years.

2)Show the American people the evidence.

 

WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION, TAKE TWO

 

 

Syria was / is a heavy chemical weapons producer. What they have is anyone's guess. As much as I sympathize for the atrocities against its own people I would not touch it even remotely.

Its time we help ourselves first and worry less about helping other. Especially those that crap on us let alone kill our people.

[retro-man]

I always liked the phrase "Speak softly and carry a big stick." (Even if I haven't always lived by it.) I like Paul's non-interference doctrine, and his insistence on following the constitution when it comes to initiating hostilities. The 1979 Islamic revolution in Iran was nothing more than the chickens coming home to roost from Operation Ajax, which was carried out 26 years earlier, to protect British oil profits. There are many many cases where butting out would have better served our long-term interests (as opposed to our short term profits.) - which is to say nothing of the self-determination of the people in those areas. We should make less enemies in the world. When we do make them, they should be sure that we can utterly destroy them, which we should be willing to do, provided congress has declared war.

Edited February 25, 2012 by retro-man

[Imawhosure]

Just an observation-------->does anyone notice that everyone on here except the DRP supporter sees the same problem/thing except for Retro who kinda waffles in the middle.

 

It goes to foreign policy, which DRPs is bassackwards, which shows total incompetence, meaning he is UNELECTABLE!

 

I will NOT sell out my countrys protection to get the best chance to balance the budget. (and that has yet to be determined) I will not sell out Canada, Mexico, or North America as a whole either. I also will NOT sell out Israel, Europe, Australia, nor South Korea. I am smart enough to realize that 1/2 of my countrys economics are global, and doing so unless all the despots decide to make nice, will send my country into an economic disaster.

 

DRPs domestic economic policy could be measured as a +100. His foreign policy should be measured as a -100. Added together, his rating is ZERO! And like it or not, that is how most people besides his disciples see him.

Edited February 25, 2012 by Imawhosure

[RangerM]

I find it interesting that a liberal always has to come between two right wing religious fanatics and try to smooth things over.

 

The burning of the Quran was stupid and ultimately it only inflames those already mad at us and drags those with a Wahhabi mindset into attacking our soldiers.

 

I'm tired of these conservative nut cases trying to make our soldiers in Muslim countries vulnerable because their non serving ass doesn't like Islam. Obama shouldn't apologize he should load up the Quran burners and let them loose in Kabul or Sadr city to do their work. See how long they last then.

As I heard the story, the soldiers who burned the books were burning refuse (ie. they were acting as garbage men). The presence of the Korans was either unknown (to them) or the destruction (since they were already in the trash) not known to be an affront; much less one worthy of killing innocent people.

 

I have no idea where you'd conclude "that a liberal always has to come between two right wing religious fanatics", but I know that you don't see large numbers of other religions' followers going out and killing others over the destruction of an object.

 

I see Obama apologizing to Muslims in other countries, and subjugating Catholics in this country. Tell me how I'm wrong.

Edited February 25, 2012 by RangerM

[napfirst]

 

 

 

 

I'm tired of these conservative nut cases trying to make our soldiers in Muslim countries vulnerable because their non serving ass doesn't like Islam .

 

 

 

 

 

Obama shouldn't apologize he should load up the Quran burners and let them loose in Kabul or Sadr city to do their work. See how long they last then.

 

So in the first part of your comment you seemed to be worried about our troops, but then how you really feel comes through........throw them to the wolves without their day in court?.......we can always depend on a liberal to throw our troops under the bus......

[Die Wahrheit]

I agree. The apology makes me cringe.

 

I wonder why you didn't cringe when Bush apologized for the soildiers who shot holes in the Koran? And Bush Spokesperson Dana Perino said that this act was unacceptable and that the soldiers would be dealt with. You probably won't remember that far back thou, you right wingers seem to have memory loss of the Worst adminstration in the history of this country. (The Bush Years)

Edited February 25, 2012 by Die Wahrheit

[fmccap]

...throw them to the wolves without their day in court?.....

That sounds like what our government is doing currently and has since the Bush years. It's one of the foundations of this country and you waiver on it. You have to pick one side.

 

Let me ask, how many people does the US government have locked up (some for many years) that don't even have formal charges brought up against them?

[fmccap]

the best chance to balance the budget. (and that has yet to be determined)

3 of 4 GOP candidates would add to deficits

[NLPRacing]

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I wonder why you didn't cringe when Bush apologized for the soildiers who shot holes in the Koran? And Bush Spokesperson Dana Perino said that this act was unacceptable and that the soldiers would be dealt with. You probably won't remember that far back thou, you right wingers seem to have memory loss of the Worst adminstration in the history of this country. (The Bush Years)

 

You called retro a right winger, thanks for bringing some comedy to this thread.

[fmccap]

[cal50]

So in the first part of your comment you seemed to be worried about our troops, but then how you really feel comes through........throw them to the wolves without their day in court?.......we can always depend on a liberal to throw our troops under the bus......

 

 

I have only one person blocked so I never see their posts unless quoted and that would be daddy.

Its not a coincidence his overwhelming negative rating continues with comments he makes but its a snap shot of how he really thinks.

 

 

From his statement handing over someone that burns a book to certain death is OK with him.

That is beyond fucked up logic.

 

If you can not "reason" with the people that kill for a stupid act how do you stomach those that support that same killing for a stupid act?

 

(Idiots, all of them)

[retro-man]

You called retro a right winger, thanks for bringing some comedy to this thread.

:hysterical: Word.

[napfirst]

:hysterical: Word.

 

Welcome to da right

Edited February 25, 2012 by napfirst

[retro-man]

Ah schucks. You make me feel warm all over. Oh wait, I just wet myself again.

[DC Car Examiner]

 

1)Koran burned.

2) People killed as a result

3) We apologize to the people that killed our people.

 

 

1. Koran burned

2. People who take that action as a very serious insult get violent.

3. We apologize for the mistake to try and stop the violence.

 

Imagine if a foreign army was in the U.S. and burned Bibles and/or American flags, and tell me that combination of factors -- foreign presence plus disliked actions -- wouldn't provoke some people to anger and/or violence.

 

 

(The downside to using "view new content" instead of visiting individual forum sections: seeing political threads.)

Edited February 26, 2012 by DC Car Examiner

[fmccap]

1. Koran burned

2. People who take that action as a very serious insult get violent.

3. We apologize for the mistake to try and stop the violence.

 

Imagine if a foreign army was in the U.S. and burned Bibles and/or American flags, and tell me that combination of factors -- foreign presence plus disliked actions -- wouldn't provoke some people to anger and/or violence.

 

 

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The only thing is the way this country is going I would probably get thrown in jail if I was to protect my family from that foreigner.

[Trimdingman]

1. Koran burned

2. People who take that action as a very serious insult get violent.

3. We apologize for the mistake to try and stop the violence.

 

Imagine if a foreign army was in the U.S. and burned Bibles and/or American flags, and tell me that combination of factors -- foreign presence plus disliked actions -- wouldn't provoke some people to anger and/or violence.

 

 

(The downside to using "view new content" instead of visiting individual forum sections: seeing political threads.)

 

 

It was wrong to burn the Koran. We are supposed to be trying to gain friends, and throw out the undesirables, helping the country so that it will eventually be an ally. If we were at war with the whole country, it wouldn't matter, just bomb the lot.

Edited February 26, 2012 by Trimdingman

[cal50]

1. Koran burned

2. People who take that action as a very serious insult get violent.

3. We apologize for the mistake to try and stop the violence.

 

Imagine if a foreign army was in the U.S. and burned Bibles and/or American flags, and tell me that combination of factors -- foreign presence plus disliked actions -- wouldn't provoke some people to anger and/or violence.

 

 

(The downside to using "view new content" instead of visiting individual forum sections: seeing political threads.)

 

 

Well when I see people (here) burning the American flag I would like to cause them some harm but that does not give me the right to do so no matter how it makes me feel. Burning a book and killing others not even remotely connected to the act is pretty despicable. Those that partially accept or condone those actions are no different than the assholes over in the sandbox.

 

 

Maybe you can get matching T-shirts like this happy guy.

He has no problem with the +3000 people that died for doing nothing except going to work that day.

He needs an extra button hole from afar.

 

[Trimdingman]

People in Afghanistan who are our friends, not our enemies, are offended by this action. The fact that some people got killed is a side issue. We are trying to fight a delicate war, with enemies and allies mixed together; like trying to build a house of cards; then some idiot blindly walks through and knocks it over. We already have the support if the great majority of the Afghan people. We are trying to help them to root out an evil force. By insulting them, we are severely hurting our cause. We need to apologize.

Edited February 27, 2012 by Trimdingman

[RangerM]

It is difficult to understand a society that accepts a moral equivalance between murdering the innocent and burning a book.

[fmccap]

It is difficult to understand a society that accepts a moral equivalance between murdering the innocent and burning a book.

Just as it is when you say you are spreading Democracy and peace with the barrel of a gun. How many innocent have we killed in the last 10 years? How do they feel about it?

[cal50]

People in Afghanistan who are our friends, not our enemies, are offended by this action. The fact that some people got killed is a side issue. We are trying to fight a delicate war, with enemies and allies mixed together; like trying to build a house of cards; then some idiot blindly walks through and knocks it over. We already have the support if the great majority of the Afghan people. We are trying to help them to root out an evil force. By insulting them, we are severely hurting our cause. We need to apologize.

 

 

Burn a stack of bibles and see if any Catholics or other religious group stages a riot let and kills others. If they are that hung up on the treatment of an object over human life I think we can live just fine without trying to help that group of people. I have a feeling the situation is just being used to advance their already established dislike / hatred of western culture / America. If it was not the book burning it would be something else for them to rally around to kill others different than themselves.

 

Apologizing is an admission of wrong doing, that's incredibly stupid with this group of people who care more for a books well being over human life. But in their eyes we apparently are worth less than ink on paper.