Jump to content

Custom Search





Coming Up Next:
Lincoln Aviator


Welcome to Blue Oval Forums


Sign In  Log in with Facebook

Create Account
Welcome to Blue Oval Forums.  You must first register to create topics and post replies. Registration is a quick and easy process and only takes a minute.  Be apart of Blue Oval Forums by signing in or creating an account.
  • Start new topics and reply to others
  • Subscribe to topics and forums to get email updates
  • Get your own profile page and make new friends
  • Send personal messages to other members
  • Create a photo album and post images
  • Use the Shout feature and more. . .
Click here to create an account now.
 
Guest Message by DevFuse

Photo
- - - - -

August 2011 Sales Results


  • Please log in to reply
177 replies to this topic

#161 OFFLINE   V8-X

V8-X

    Junior Member

  • Blue Oval Member
  • PipPipPip
  • 2,706 posts
  • Joined 15-May 03
  • Location:Denver, CO

Posted 07 September 2011 - 02:51 PM

Winter trash talk - count me in the smackdown! Don't make me have to post pictures of Loveland, Rabbit Ears, Red Mountain, and Berthod Pass in winter! A lot of us in Colorado spend a great deal of time in the winter season at > double the altitude of Devnver/Boulder....I was skiing fresh powder at 13k feet on the continental divide on May 5th 2011. No such thing as a snow day here! A snow day is a powder day and all the more reason to get out and play! You can't win this one!

And for you flatlanders and winter wannabee's: when you don't see any trees, that's above the timberline, or much to Toyota's embarrassment, the real alpine "tundra".

You're right on there brother. Rabbit Ears is always a fun trek in the winter. You see some parts of the mountains were receiving snow today, mostly above 10.5Kft, which is roughly twice the elevation of Denver.

And for those referencing cold, here in Denver it doesn't get to bad. Snow for a day, then two days later it's gone (due to the amount of sunlight and the intensity of the sun here). Now climb up the mountain to places like Leadville, or down to the valley's like Alamosa, or say Gunnison and you'll notice a considerable difference in climate, especially in winter.

True enough, but you're still talking about an Escape and an Edge. Neither of them really sit high in comparison to an F-150, Wrangler, or Expedition. The only particularly low point under the Edge is the exhaust.

Actually, the Expy has quite a bit of low hanging suspension, especially the IRS arms. Don't be mislead by the front bumper.

Maybe you should look up some statistics before you try to accuse someone of exaggerating numbers.

BTW, the only thing you were right on, is the fact that my numbers were wrong. However, they were not high, they were way low (as I based my numbers on the last time I lived in the Valley).

Actual 2010 census numbers put the population of the Phoenix, Glendale, Mesa area (the Phx metropolitan area) at 4,192,887. Remember that census counts are taken after the "snowbirds" leave. Snowbirds numbers are counted in the state that they call home.


http://phoenix.about.../census01_2.htm

So, based on those numbers, the few Foci on the ground is even more pathetic.

Wow, mighty defensive there, I was being sarcastic. And I know the population. I've lived there a few years back (Tempe, Mesa and Gilbert). I visit there about once a year or two. Still have quite a few friends down there too. And I keep up with the city and the changes it has gone threw since I moved.
2006 Ford F-150 SuperCrew XLT Chrome Edition
5.4L 3V FFV, 3.73LS, 18" Stock Chrome Rims, 18" BFG Rugged Trail T/A's, Trailer Tow Pkg
Sun/Moonroof, Fog Lamps, Ford Bedliner
Lund Headlight & Taillight Covers, Lund VentVisors







Lose this advertisement by becoming a member. Click here to create a free account.


#162 OFFLINE   NickF1011

NickF1011

    Moderator Shmoderator

  • Blue Oval Member
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 33,712 posts
  • Joined 13-September 04
  • Region:Decline
  • Location:Annapolis, MD
  • Current Vehicle:2011 Edge Sport, 1997 Mustang Cobra

Posted 07 September 2011 - 02:55 PM

Actually, the Expy has quite a bit of low hanging suspension, especially the IRS arms. Don't be mislead by the front bumper.


Eh, IRS arms are tricky to really judge, since on most obstacles you'd be traversing, they'll be moving upward along with the tire. Only time you really run into trouble there is when you are driving over an object that travels between both tires.
Current Rides:
2011 Ford Edge Sport AWD
1997 Ford SVT Mustang Cobra

Previous Rides:
2004 Mazda 6s
1995 Saturn SL2
1994 Ford Explorer XLT 4x2
1993 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo 4x4
1993 Ford Taurus LX
1987 Ford Taurus GL
 
Moderator at TeamMustang.net

#163 OFFLINE   Extreme4x4

Extreme4x4

    SheMember

  • Blue Oval Member
  • PipPip
  • 2,090 posts
  • Joined 25-March 00
  • Region:Decline
  • Location:Payson,Az. USA
  • Current Vehicle:2013 Explorer Sport, 2008 F250 SD

Posted 07 September 2011 - 05:30 PM

You're right on there brother. Rabbit Ears is always a fun trek in the winter. You see some parts of the mountains were receiving snow today, mostly above 10.5Kft, which is roughly twice the elevation of Denver.

And for those referencing cold, here in Denver it doesn't get to bad. Snow for a day, then two days later it's gone (due to the amount of sunlight and the intensity of the sun here). Now climb up the mountain to places like Leadville, or down to the valley's like Alamosa, or say Gunnison and you'll notice a considerable difference in climate, especially in winter.


Actually, the Expy has quite a bit of low hanging suspension, especially the IRS arms. Don't be mislead by the front bumper.


Wow, mighty defensive there, I was being sarcastic. And I know the population. I've lived there a few years back (Tempe, Mesa and Gilbert). I visit there about once a year or two. Still have quite a few friends down there too. And I keep up with the city and the changes it has gone threw since I moved.


Touche' I was not the one who tried to discredit my numbers as being an egaggeration. It is now convenient, since you have been caught, to state you were being sarcastic. In the vein of the post that you questioned, what exactly, does said sarcasm accomplish??

You seem to have a tendency to be negative, for negativities sake. Especially where Ford is concerned. The question then becomes, is your opinion more valid as someone who would not buy the Explorer or Escape anyway.................. or the Mom who has bought this segment in the past, and may again?? Oh yeah, and she just so happens to have more off-road experience than you would ever dream of, so don't play the off-roading card here.
Gloria
2013 Ford Explorer Sport LOADED, and we love MFT
2008 Ford F250 4x4 Crewcab, shortbed, Lariat (Navigation and DVD) V10
2003 Mazda Tribute ES AWD, loaded (sold)
2001 Ford F150 Lightning (sold)
1993 Ford EB Explorer, 1000RTI (sold)
1969 Ford F250 4x4 Crewcab (sold)
1968 Chevy C10 Longbed, (sold)
1968 Chevy L78 Camaro SS
1966 Yenko Stinger, YS-100
1937 GMC 2.5-ton cab/chassis (sold)

#164 OFFLINE   RichardJensen

RichardJensen

    Does whatever a SpiderPig does

  • Moderator
  • 35,308 posts
  • Joined 02-September 04
  • Location:Sioux Falls, SD
  • Current Vehicle:2000 Mercury Sable

Posted 07 September 2011 - 09:24 PM

Ice storms are even worse

Oh yeah. Glad we don't get many of those.

Being a Minnesota boy, it was fun to watch.

Yep. You know what I mean about 'wimps' and 'morons'.......

A snow day is a powder day

Like I said. Snow is not the same as cold.

winter wannabee's

Let me know when you consider 15 degrees on a sunny day 'coat optional' weather.

And FWIW, I didn't sleep through 7th grade geography and therefore know what the timberline is, and what makes tundra tundra.

Do you, my jive-talking Coloradoan, know what's significant about this little pond here?

Attached Files


photo-thumb-15254.jpg


#165 OFFLINE   Kev-Mo

Kev-Mo

    Member

  • Blue Oval Member
  • PipPip
  • 1,083 posts
  • Joined 27-January 04
  • Region:U.S. Mountain
  • Location:Mountain West
  • Current Vehicle:2008 Explorer EB

Posted 08 September 2011 - 12:20 AM

And FWIW, I didn't sleep through 7th grade geography and therefore know what the timberline is, and what makes tundra tundra.


Do you, my jive-talking Coloradoan, know what's significant about this little pond here?


I give up...go ahead and tell me

RJ, I would have bet the ranch that you- of all people would know about the geographical makeup of the rocky mountains, but how much time have you actually spent there? Yes, I have been to Minn in January, and yes it is cold. But the high alpine of the Rockies is another world.

Next time you are in an aircraft that has one of those continuous GPS readouts, and you are flying at or north of 40 degrees latitude in winter- when the altitude reads 13,000 ft, check the outside temperature and wind speed...that is what I am talking about. :cold:

What does all this have to do with Fords? I moved to Colorado 24 years ago in a 1986 Ranger 4x4. Since then I have driven regularly in the mountains with: 1992 F150 4x4, 1997 F150 4x4, 1998 Explorer 4x4, and 2008 Explorer 4x4. While all the vehicles have been stellar winter performers, I would have to say the 2008 Explorer is by far the best, followed by the 1998 Explorer. The SUVs perform in snow and winter driving better than an unloaded pickup truck. Even with much higher clearance on the trucks, the SUVs front to rear weight distribution is much better to handle crazy snow, and winter driving. Looking them over, I would have the utmost confidence in an Escape and Edge - with decent winter tires of course!

And - I am tired of reading comments that all generations of Explorers are not really proficient off-roaders. Both my '98 and '08 Explorers could handle all but the most insane 4x4 and US Forest Service roads here in Colorado. The narrow '98 was especially nimble off-road. The Explorer is as good as any of it's competitors were during the course of its existence - comparing year to year and generation to generation. More specialized vehicles like Wrangler are of course in a different class, but head to head with other BOF SUVs of the '90s and '00s, the Explorer did just fine.

Edited by Kev-Mo, 08 September 2011 - 12:49 AM.

  • V8-X likes this

#166 OFFLINE   jpd80

jpd80

    Member

  • Blue Oval Member
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 23,114 posts
  • Joined 02-June 04
  • Region:Decline
  • Location:My Happy Place
  • Current Vehicle:Falcon 302 V8

Posted 08 September 2011 - 01:57 AM

It's not that th previous Explorer couldn't d off road work, it's more
the fact that over 80% weren't required to do that by their owners..

Edited by jpd80, 08 September 2011 - 01:59 AM.


#167 OFFLINE   RichardJensen

RichardJensen

    Does whatever a SpiderPig does

  • Moderator
  • 35,308 posts
  • Joined 02-September 04
  • Location:Sioux Falls, SD
  • Current Vehicle:2000 Mercury Sable

Posted 08 September 2011 - 06:48 AM

I give up...go ahead and tell me

That is the southernmost reach of the Hudson Bay watershed, also known as the Northern Continental divide. It's a slough at the south end of Lake Traverse.

RJ, I would have bet the ranch that you- of all people would know about the geographical makeup of the rocky mountains, but how much time have you actually spent there?

I spend about two weeks there every three years, on average. I've been there in Feb., April, July, September, October, and probably a couple other months in between. I haven't been to Boulder, Colorado Springs or the southern end of the Front Range, and I haven't driven I-70, but I've been to Ouray, RMNP, Estes Park, through the Rockies on the California Zephyr, Meeker, Grand Junction, the Black Canyon, the Monument, etc. I know that on a clear day you can see Long's Peak from Cheyenne, and my next goals are hiking Mt. Buchanan and going to the top of the Grand Mesa.

Both my '98 and '08 Explorers could handle all but the most insane 4x4 and US Forest Service roads here in Colorado.

I suspect that the current Explorer gives up little capability apart from the loss of the 4-Lo setting.

photo-thumb-15254.jpg


#168 OFFLINE   Mark B. Morrow

Mark B. Morrow

    Member

  • Blue Oval Member
  • PipPipPip
  • 8,049 posts
  • Joined 02-March 05
  • Location:Pittsburgh, PA (Steeler City)
  • Current Vehicle:2006 Eddie Bauer Explorer (5th EB Explorer)

Posted 08 September 2011 - 12:21 PM

so where does 2% milk come from...2% cows?......same with lean ground....special breed of cows that frequent the Gym?........



It's like Virgin Wool comes from Ugly Sheep.

'64 1/2 Mustang Convertible - 289 5 speed restomod
'66 T-Bird Convertible - restored
'06 Explorer Eddie Bauer - Dark Cherry Metallic and Pueblo Gold (My 5th EB Explorer)

I Disagree With You...But I'm Pretty Sure You're Not Hitler.
- Jon Stewart


PITTSBURGH CITY OF CHAMPIONS-PITTSBURGH STEELERS - SUPER BOWL IX, X, XII, XIV, XL, XLIII CHAMPIONS--PITTSBURGH PENGUINS - 1991, 1992, 2009 & 2016 STANLEY CUP CHAMPIONS and the PITTSBURGH PIRATES WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS 1909, 1960, 1971 & 1979 and now - After  20 consecutive losing seasons: a contender. (I hope)

Pittsburgh Vintage Grand Prix  July 7-16, 2017  www.pvgp.org


#169 OFFLINE   V8-X

V8-X

    Junior Member

  • Blue Oval Member
  • PipPipPip
  • 2,706 posts
  • Joined 15-May 03
  • Location:Denver, CO

Posted 08 September 2011 - 02:51 PM

Touche' I was not the one who tried to discredit my numbers as being an egaggeration. It is now convenient, since you have been caught, to state you were being sarcastic. In the vein of the post that you questioned, what exactly, does said sarcasm accomplish??

You seem to have a tendency to be negative, for negativities sake. Especially where Ford is concerned. The question then becomes, is your opinion more valid as someone who would not buy the Explorer or Escape anyway.................. or the Mom who has bought this segment in the past, and may again?? Oh yeah, and she just so happens to have more off-road experience than you would ever dream of, so don't play the off-roading card here.

Caught? For what being a smart ass and poking fun at your figures and snow birds. It was a joke, get over it.

What exactly did the sarcasm accomplish? Possibly a good laugh for those that know a little about Phoenix (but not you of course) and the snow bird migration. The fact is, anyone who knows the slightest about Phoenix, knows it is the 6th (formerly the 5th) largest populated city in the states. Those that know a thing or two about Phoenix, know about the snow bird migration and how it feels like the population doubles in the winter.

When have I been negative about the F-Series lineup? How about the Ranger or the current Escape or the Flex, or the Mustang? Oh yeah that's right. It must be be because I dislike the Explorer and am willing to admit so on this forum and disagree with you and others, that supposedly makes me "negative". Heck, I've agreed on points with you (and I beleive your husband on a very rare occasion) here, or at FTE a few times in the past. And who exactly stated my opinion was more valid than someone else? As I've always stated, I just attempt to provide my opinion. Take it for what it's worth. Some agree, some don't. If you disagree, I'm cool with it, explain your reasoning. Just don't try to convince me that you're always right and I'm wrong though.

And off-road experience, you may have your fair share, I don't know you from Adam. But please do no act like you are the all mighty off-road queen if you surely do not know my experience either. You know what they call that right, assuming??? I've done the the baja type deals down outside Queen Creek and south of Phoenix, wheeled outside of Flagstaff as well as out by Show Low at my friends property, just for a few AZ spots. CO, I've been all over the state wheeling. Been a passenger wheeling since I was in elementary school, in old school Jeeps, Broncos and Scouts growing up, and has been a steady hobby of mine since I started driving. But it's good know you are supposedly the know it all and best at every item any man (or woman) could do, even when you have no knowledge of who you speak too.

Personally it seems you are an old grouchy lady that is easily offended and can't stand anyone saying anything negative (or sarcastically) about AZ or Ford products, or simply disagreeing with you.

Edited by V8-X, 08 September 2011 - 02:54 PM.

2006 Ford F-150 SuperCrew XLT Chrome Edition
5.4L 3V FFV, 3.73LS, 18" Stock Chrome Rims, 18" BFG Rugged Trail T/A's, Trailer Tow Pkg
Sun/Moonroof, Fog Lamps, Ford Bedliner
Lund Headlight & Taillight Covers, Lund VentVisors

#170 OFFLINE   BrewfanGRB

BrewfanGRB

    Blue Oval Member

  • Blue Oval Member
  • PipPip
  • 1,160 posts
  • Joined 12-May 09
  • Region:U.S. Great Lakes
  • Location:Now actually in the GRB (basically)
  • Current Vehicle:2009 Ford Fusion

Posted 09 September 2011 - 04:05 AM

I know about winter complaints. We've got the cold and the snow. I understand WHY cities like Atlanta and Dallas are crippled by minimal amounts of snow...but it doesn't mean it isn't funny. As for cold, well, when a very cold night is -20F here and -40F in International Falls, I don't really see the difference. So I don't call them morons.

That's why I'm happy to live here. I couldn't stand living in a city like Atlanta and have the only day they get snow be the only day the city shuts down. Forget that. I'd rather just deal with it everyday and have the city shut down once a year during a huge storm.
  • V8-X likes this

photo-thumb-15254.jpg

 

Currently: '09 Ford Fusion V6 SEL Smokestone

Prior:

'01 Pontiac Sunfire (traded in for the Fusion with 142k...good car, never a problem)
'00 Plymouth Neon (traded in for the Sunfire with 35k when I blew the head gasket---probably because I pegged it at 110 twice. I liked the car, though...it was my first new car)
'94 Plymouth Acclaim (first car I ever BOUGHT...ok car, but transmission was horrible...traded this for the Neon)
Pontiac LeMans (I think it was an '89...barely memorable)
'76 Ford Granada (my very first car---parents bought it for $500)
 

Future: Mindless support for Trump means something other than a Ford. (Probably an ATS or an S60).


#171 OFFLINE   Kev-Mo

Kev-Mo

    Member

  • Blue Oval Member
  • PipPip
  • 1,083 posts
  • Joined 27-January 04
  • Region:U.S. Mountain
  • Location:Mountain West
  • Current Vehicle:2008 Explorer EB

Posted 09 September 2011 - 03:46 PM

I know about winter complaints. We've got the cold and the snow. I understand WHY cities like Atlanta and Dallas are crippled by minimal amounts of snow...but it doesn't mean it isn't funny. As for cold, well, when a very cold night is -20F here and -40F in International Falls, I don't really see the difference. So I don't call them morons.

That's why I'm happy to live here. I couldn't stand living in a city like Atlanta and have the only day they get snow be the only day the city shuts down. Forget that. I'd rather just deal with it everyday and have the city shut down once a year during a huge storm.



Your Brewers look good! I know you have been waiting a long time...congrats on the great season and good luck in October!

#172 OFFLINE   jpd80

jpd80

    Member

  • Blue Oval Member
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 23,114 posts
  • Joined 02-June 04
  • Region:Decline
  • Location:My Happy Place
  • Current Vehicle:Falcon 302 V8

Posted 09 September 2011 - 05:59 PM

I suspect that the current Explorer gives up little capability apart from the loss of the 4-Lo setting.

Exactly.
When you have a great 6-speed auto with a super low first, there's very few occasions where that won't do in a pinch.
Is the Explorer even less truck like?......Yes.
Is that necessarily a bad thing?......No

#173 OFFLINE   ANTAUS

ANTAUS

    Member

  • Blue Oval Member
  • PipPipPip
  • 6,891 posts
  • Joined 22-November 99
  • Location:Orlando, FL

Posted 09 September 2011 - 09:26 PM

I had the...displeasure, of visiting a small "post" (I wont even call that a tone), on the tip of western Alaska, called Point Hope. It was a very educating experience to see how people in those places lived. Everything was Expy, Tahoe, Explorers. Some of the "inuit' said that Fords usually do better in starting up over GMs (this was many years ago, not sure if this still holds true). Houses are usually up on stilts since the ground sort of moves. Houses are painted in very vivid color, and being 2 days there I can see why depression would set in on anyone. The "post/village/township" has no more than 300 inhabitants. No roads in or out, just an airstrip. And when a part in your car breaks down, well...good luck in trying to fix it yourself.

#174 OFFLINE   BrewfanGRB

BrewfanGRB

    Blue Oval Member

  • Blue Oval Member
  • PipPip
  • 1,160 posts
  • Joined 12-May 09
  • Region:U.S. Great Lakes
  • Location:Now actually in the GRB (basically)
  • Current Vehicle:2009 Ford Fusion

Posted 10 September 2011 - 02:49 AM

Your Brewers look good! I know you have been waiting a long time...congrats on the great season and good luck in October!


Thanks! It's been kind of a rough go the last week, but I'm hoping they can an easy-ish wrap to the season to get into the playoffs strong. We'll see.

photo-thumb-15254.jpg

 

Currently: '09 Ford Fusion V6 SEL Smokestone

Prior:

'01 Pontiac Sunfire (traded in for the Fusion with 142k...good car, never a problem)
'00 Plymouth Neon (traded in for the Sunfire with 35k when I blew the head gasket---probably because I pegged it at 110 twice. I liked the car, though...it was my first new car)
'94 Plymouth Acclaim (first car I ever BOUGHT...ok car, but transmission was horrible...traded this for the Neon)
Pontiac LeMans (I think it was an '89...barely memorable)
'76 Ford Granada (my very first car---parents bought it for $500)
 

Future: Mindless support for Trump means something other than a Ford. (Probably an ATS or an S60).


#175 OFFLINE   Mark B. Morrow

Mark B. Morrow

    Member

  • Blue Oval Member
  • PipPipPip
  • 8,049 posts
  • Joined 02-March 05
  • Location:Pittsburgh, PA (Steeler City)
  • Current Vehicle:2006 Eddie Bauer Explorer (5th EB Explorer)

Posted 10 September 2011 - 05:30 PM

Thanks! It's been kind of a rough go the last week, but I'm hoping they can an easy-ish wrap to the season to get into the playoffs strong. We'll see.



The Brewers certainly have the Pirates' number. Despite our brief flirtation with First Place a couple of months ago, it looks like we are on our way to 19 consecutive losing seasons.

'64 1/2 Mustang Convertible - 289 5 speed restomod
'66 T-Bird Convertible - restored
'06 Explorer Eddie Bauer - Dark Cherry Metallic and Pueblo Gold (My 5th EB Explorer)

I Disagree With You...But I'm Pretty Sure You're Not Hitler.
- Jon Stewart


PITTSBURGH CITY OF CHAMPIONS-PITTSBURGH STEELERS - SUPER BOWL IX, X, XII, XIV, XL, XLIII CHAMPIONS--PITTSBURGH PENGUINS - 1991, 1992, 2009 & 2016 STANLEY CUP CHAMPIONS and the PITTSBURGH PIRATES WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS 1909, 1960, 1971 & 1979 and now - After  20 consecutive losing seasons: a contender. (I hope)

Pittsburgh Vintage Grand Prix  July 7-16, 2017  www.pvgp.org


#176 OFFLINE   BrewfanGRB

BrewfanGRB

    Blue Oval Member

  • Blue Oval Member
  • PipPip
  • 1,160 posts
  • Joined 12-May 09
  • Region:U.S. Great Lakes
  • Location:Now actually in the GRB (basically)
  • Current Vehicle:2009 Ford Fusion

Posted 10 September 2011 - 06:03 PM

The Brewers certainly have the Pirates' number. Despite our brief flirtation with First Place a couple of months ago, it looks like we are on our way to 19 consecutive losing seasons.


I didn't want the Pirates to win the division or anything (of course), but I was sincerely pulling for them to finish with a winning record. They've got some really nice young players (McCutcheon, Tabata, Hanrahan) and it's good to see ownership spending to keep those young guys AND drafting the best player available, even if they cost a lot to sign. Those are legitimately good signs for the future (and not just bullshit "we're building for the future" Huntington tried to pawn off on the fans in the past).

photo-thumb-15254.jpg

 

Currently: '09 Ford Fusion V6 SEL Smokestone

Prior:

'01 Pontiac Sunfire (traded in for the Fusion with 142k...good car, never a problem)
'00 Plymouth Neon (traded in for the Sunfire with 35k when I blew the head gasket---probably because I pegged it at 110 twice. I liked the car, though...it was my first new car)
'94 Plymouth Acclaim (first car I ever BOUGHT...ok car, but transmission was horrible...traded this for the Neon)
Pontiac LeMans (I think it was an '89...barely memorable)
'76 Ford Granada (my very first car---parents bought it for $500)
 

Future: Mindless support for Trump means something other than a Ford. (Probably an ATS or an S60).


#177 OFFLINE   Extreme4x4

Extreme4x4

    SheMember

  • Blue Oval Member
  • PipPip
  • 2,090 posts
  • Joined 25-March 00
  • Region:Decline
  • Location:Payson,Az. USA
  • Current Vehicle:2013 Explorer Sport, 2008 F250 SD

Posted 11 September 2011 - 12:44 AM

Personally it seems you are an old grouchy lady that is easily offended and can't stand anyone saying anything negative (or sarcastically) about AZ or Ford products, or simply disagreeing with you.


Actually, I am one of those annoying bubbly outgoing people. Thank you for doing what you said I did.................. assume. I enjoy the occassional verbal sparring with a know-it-all or a smart ass. It keeps the brain cells firing.

Feel free to look up Zimmermann Explorer any time you wish. I am happy that you have done some wheeling. Did you do it in an Explorer?? The vast majority of mine was done in one (well, except for the time in a Bronco II, and a Toyota 4x4 that I hated). However, I am able to look at the new Explorer in the same way that all potential buyers look at it.................. as what it pretty much has always been. With a few exceptions. That is the problem I have with these arguements and constant bashings.

BTW, you are not the only one able to be a smart ass on the internet. Frankly, we need a smart ass smiley.

Thus, we can agree to disagree on this subject. I am sure I will agree with you on other things, and you might even agree with me now and then. I just don't post as much anymore, as I don't have time.
Gloria
2013 Ford Explorer Sport LOADED, and we love MFT
2008 Ford F250 4x4 Crewcab, shortbed, Lariat (Navigation and DVD) V10
2003 Mazda Tribute ES AWD, loaded (sold)
2001 Ford F150 Lightning (sold)
1993 Ford EB Explorer, 1000RTI (sold)
1969 Ford F250 4x4 Crewcab (sold)
1968 Chevy C10 Longbed, (sold)
1968 Chevy L78 Camaro SS
1966 Yenko Stinger, YS-100
1937 GMC 2.5-ton cab/chassis (sold)

#178 OFFLINE   jpd80

jpd80

    Member

  • Blue Oval Member
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 23,114 posts
  • Joined 02-June 04
  • Region:Decline
  • Location:My Happy Place
  • Current Vehicle:Falcon 302 V8

Posted 11 September 2011 - 12:55 AM

Feel free to look up Zimmermann Explorer any time you wish. I am happy that you have done some wheeling. Did you do it in an Explorer?? The vast majority of mine was done in one (well, except for the time in a Bronco II, and a Toyota 4x4 that I hated). However, I am able to look at the new Explorer in the same way that all potential buyers look at it.................. as what it pretty much has always been. With a few exceptions. That is the problem I have with these arguements and constant bashings.

Hey Gloria, knowing your experience at modding off road Explorers, how hard will it be for off road experts to transfer what
has been discovered and developed for the previous BOF Explorers onto the new integral framed D3 Explorers?

Are we going to see a new generation of off road Explorers built that can take on the tough stuff and amaze critics?

I take it Zimmerman Explorer has nothing to do with Bob Dylan.....

John

Edited by jpd80, 11 September 2011 - 12:56 AM.









Custom Search


1 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 1 guests, 0 anonymous users

Privacy Policy Terms of Service ·