BC Fired for Theft, Grievance Withdrawn & $70,000 Buy-Off Given

[EnlightenMe]

What's Bob King, Nick Gallogy, Chris Viscome and $70,000 have in common?

 

 

Here's a hint...terminated BC Pena. The tale will be told as public record can unfold the mystery behind the question. Theft WAS proven by Ford Motor Co., the grievance WAS withdrawn at the 3.5 Stage and the buy-off was completed. All facts with supporting documentation. Quite the tainted crew of UAW officials. Why did they go to such extremes to protect one Union "brother" instead of our hardworking Union "family"?

[EnlightenMe]

What's Bob King, Nick Gallogly, Chris Viscome and $70,000 have in common?

 

 

Here's a hint...terminated BC Pena. The tale will be told as public record can unfold the mystery behind the question. Theft WAS proven by Ford Motor Co., the grievance WAS withdrawn at the 3.5 Stage and the buy-off was completed. All facts with supporting documentation. Quite the tainted crew of UAW officials. Why did they go to such extremes to protect one Union "brother" instead of our hardworking Union "family"?

 

 

Wow! Now that ALL of the corrupt officials involved KNOW that the documents have been released...nothing but silence. No more adament defenses, no more personal attacks, no more cries of rumor and sabatoge.

 

And the interesting twists...Nick's son works with Fred at Magna Intier. Fred is running for Chairman at Magna. Fred gave credit to the "UAW heirarchy" (quote from public record transcript) for helping him secure that position and providing him with his $70,000 buy-off. All this done after Ford Motor proved that he stole and forged three checks of fellow Union brothers AND discharged him for THEFT.

 

And how is it that his grievance was withdrawn at the 3.5 stage AND he still managed to receive $70,000??? ($50,000 buy-out, $20,000 car credit)

 

All facts...public records don't lie.

[Grim Reaper]

Wow! Now that ALL of the corrupt officials involved KNOW that the documents have been released...nothing but silence. No more adament defenses, no more personal attacks, no more cries of rumor and sabatoge.

 

And the interesting twists...Nick's son works with Fred at Magna Intier. Fred is running for Chairman at Magna. Fred gave credit to the "UAW heirarchy" (quote from public record transcript) for helping him secure that position and providing him with his $70,000 buy-off. All this done after Ford Motor proved that he stole and forged three checks of fellow Union brothers AND discharged him for THEFT.

 

And how is it that his grievance was withdrawn at the 3.5 stage AND he still managed to receive $70,000??? ($50,000 buy-out, $20,000 car credit)

 

All facts...public records don't lie.

 

 

First of all nobody knows what the heck you are talking about.

 

Secondly people are getting sick of all the negativity on this site.

 

Third this is not 8th grade

 

Fourth this is a public forum with customers that frequent the site and will run to a toyota dealership after reading this bs

 

Fifth you need help. Please add something constructive to help not this crap nthat tears us apart

 

Let this negativity die.

 

Thanks

 

Grim

[EnlightenMe]

 

Let this negativity die.

 

 

 

The whole point is to eleviate the negativity and to weed out what (or who) is not right in our great Union. If you don't know what I'm referring to than it is understandable why you don't know what I'm talking about. But it is a problem that we are experiencing in our plant that you must not work at.

 

Fellow Union brothers and sisters have the right to know the truth. We have the right to know who is representing us. This has been a huge coverup for almost three years. The truth of the situation is finally surfacing. No personal attacks are being posted. No false statements. No rumors or lies. Just facts based on documentation. Just as we have the right to know the truth...you have the right to not read this topic.

 

The negativity will die when the negative leadership is removed and held accountable for their actions.

 

Thank you.

Edited May 20, 2010 by EnlightenMe

[fatfender]

First of all nobody knows what the heck you are talking about.

 

Secondly people are getting sick of all the negativity on this site.

 

Third this is not 8th grade

 

Fourth this is a public forum with customers that frequent the site and will run to a toyota dealership after reading this bs

 

Fifth you need help. Please add something constructive to help not this crap nthat tears us apart

 

Let this negativity die.

 

Thanks

 

Grim

 

 

If you worked at OHAP you would know first hand what he is talking about as most people here do. I thought that Ford took care of that crook by firing him and you would think that with all the proof in hand the union would have backed the company seeing as union members were robbed by a union official. If memory serves me right, didn't he get caught in a sting where he was trying to get money out of someone who was terminated and 'couldn't' get his job back but he could get him a package if he would just walk away?

I'd like to see some of that documentation to see how this went down.

[messy marvin lang]

If you worked at OHAP you would know first hand what he is talking about as most people here do. I thought that Ford took care of that crook by firing him and you would think that with all the proof in hand the union would have backed the company seeing as union members were robbed by a union official. If memory serves me right, didn't he get caught in a sting where he was trying to get money out of someone who was terminated and 'couldn't' get his job back but he could get him a package if he would just walk away?

I'd like to see some of that documentation to see how this went down.

It sounds like the guy is gone..what do you want? a written apology? blood? A reach around? who cares move on

[Grim Reaper]

If you worked at OHAP you would know first hand what he is talking about as most people here do. I thought that Ford took care of that crook by firing him and you would think that with all the proof in hand the union would have backed the company seeing as union members were robbed by a union official. If memory serves me right, didn't he get caught in a sting where he was trying to get money out of someone who was terminated and 'couldn't' get his job back but he could get him a package if he would just walk away?

I'd like to see some of that documentation to see how this went down.

 

 

OK

 

So you have a problem with a past union official at your location and you are compelled to post this on a public web site with potential customers going through these threads and they come across this junior high garbage. This stuff makes us look like dysfunctional union members. We don’t need this negativity on a public web site. We are gaining market share month after month. Stuff like this is really unnecessary.

 

Brilliant!!!!!

 

If you are so interested in getting this info out to members why don’t you leaflet your plant and sign your name as the accusing party.

 

Im done here.........

[level]

If you worked at OHAP you would know first hand what he is talking about as most people here do. I thought that Ford took care of that crook by firing him and you would think that with all the proof in hand the union would have backed the company seeing as union members were robbed by a union official. If memory serves me right, didn't he get caught in a sting where he was trying to get money out of someone who was terminated and 'couldn't' get his job back but he could get him a package if he would just walk away?

I'd like to see some of that documentation to see how this went down.

 

Your memory is one of urban myth.............there was no sting.........only the sting of your bullshit remarks and slander.

 

Yes.....many people that are fired "actually" did something wrong.............just like Mary Springowski's siblings were fired.............

 

and yes............we get them buyouts afterwards..............this is in agreement for them to drop their grievances......

 

but another point you are incorrect on.............is the fact that these are buyouts..........not buyoffs idiot......

 

Even is someone stole, cheated or lied.............which many brothers and sisters often do for reasons known or unknown............

 

They still worked many years at a company..........and were owed something for their years of service............regardless of whatever they did........or whether they were sorry, or it was a moment of weakness, or whatever...........

 

Mary's siblings were wrong.............they were fired...........they got the buyout............for their years of service...........even guilty people deserve a return on their vested interests.....

 

You are an idiot, but if you get fired...........I wish you have the opportunity also.........

 

and by the way...............this was already belabored on another thread that died out for lack of any more to say or explain...........beating a dead horse over and over....only makes one tired..........

 

so do not take everyones lack of attention to your bullshit posts...to mean that we are giving you any credence.............what is happening is that you are being ignored........as I also will do henceforth...........

Edited May 20, 2010 by level

[EnlightenMe]

If you worked at OHAP you would know first hand what he is talking about as most people here do. I thought that Ford took care of that crook by firing him and you would think that with all the proof in hand the union would have backed the company seeing as union members were robbed by a union official. If memory serves me right, didn't he get caught in a sting where he was trying to get money out of someone who was terminated and 'couldn't' get his job back but he could get him a package if he would just walk away?

I'd like to see some of that documentation to see how this went down.

 

 

Ford did fire him for theft and they were able to prove the crime as reports were made internally by the victims, a full investigation was completed by the company and the checks were recovered after being forged and deposited into First Merit bank by BC Fred Pena. Three checks (that can be proven) from fellow union brothers were stolen and forged by their "trusted" union official. (totalling close to $10,000) He admitted to stealing them from the Union Hall. He was terminanated for theft. His grievance was withdrawn at the 3.5 stage. He did receive a buy-out package totaling $70,000 that did NOT include the option of retaining employment.

 

Bob King, Nick Gallogly and Chris Viscome were involved with this "deal/coverup" from the beginning as their names and signatures can be found throughout all the documentation.

 

Per public record, Fred has given credit to the "UAW Heirarchy" for helping him obtain and secure his new position at a nearby UAW represented company where he is now running for Chairman. Many of the documents that can validate these claims are now public record.

[level]

Ford did fire him for theft and they were able to prove the crime as reports were made internally by the victims, a full investigation was completed by the company and the checks were recovered after being forged and deposited into First Merit bank by BC Fred Pena. Three checks (that can be proven) from fellow union brothers were stolen and forged by their "trusted" union official. (totalling close to $10,000) He admitted to stealing them from the Union Hall. He was terminanated for theft. His grievance was withdrawn at the 3.5 stage. He did receive a buy-out package totaling $70,000 that did NOT include the option of retaining employment.

 

Bob King, Nick Gallogly and Chris Viscome were involved with this "deal/coverup" from the beginning as their names and signatures can be found throughout all the documentation.

 

Per public record, Fred has given credit to the "UAW Heirarchy" for helping him obtain and secure his new position at a nearby UAW represented company where he is now running for Chairman. Many of the documents that can validate these claims are now public record.

 

 

You still do not have all of your facts..........and that makes you ignorant.........your names asks for enlightenment......but alas there is no hope........

 

Also........your singling out of one individual who was fired..........versus hundreds that did the same..........makes this a personal attack or vendetta.....take that shit elsewhere.......

 

Why aren't you digging up the info on Mary Springs brother/sister............same thing............same plant............or are you Freddies ex wife? WTF

Edited May 20, 2010 by level

[level]

It sounds like the guy is gone..what do you want? a written apology? blood? A reach around? who cares move on

 

 

Ha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL

[EnlightenMe]

You still do not have all of your facts..........and that makes you ignorant.........your names asks for enlightenment......but alas there is no hope........

 

Also........your singling out of one individual who was fired..........versus hundreds that did the same..........makes this a personal attack or vendetta.....take that shit elsewhere.......

 

Why aren't you digging up the info on Mary Springs brother/sister............same thing............same plant............or are you Freddies ex wife? WTF

 

I might not have all the facts but I have many. I don't recall Springs brother or sister getting fired for a felony offense. Violating company policy/rules doesn't fall into the same category. I don't recall hundreds of union officials stealing checks from the membership either. It's not a personal vendetta but uncovering this huge coverup that went down. You've made claims in past postings that you're not from our plant but you have taken a personal interest in this topic which comes off as defensive. There are alot of people in our plant that want the truth for different reasons. Maybe you're one of the officials mentioned above? WTF?

[WRH]

Level brother no disrespect but your a international rep and your not in the plant. Since you want facts heres some. Theres a lot of us that are pretty pissed off about this deal. There had to be some kind of deal cut with the company and the union because the company don't do nothing for free and we're gonna be the ones paying for it. Everyone at OHAP pretty much knows that this asshole stole money from people getting packages if they were taking it voluntary or because they got fired. Then he goes and steals checks from people who retired. What kind of person does this? Why is it still a issue? Because his brother is our standards rep and our standards are fubar and its got a lot of us wondering if this was also part of the deal. He steals and gets caught and then gets a nice chunk of change and is working at another UAW plant and is going to run for chairman there? And this is stuff that Fred is saying! He doesn't hide it! Its almost like he's proud of it. He was telling some of us that he was actually trying to get his job at our plant back. The facts are that this is bullshit. I just found out that this stuff is public record now so I'm going to find that public record and see the facts myself. Trying to throw other people under the bus like you did is just wrong. How do we trust someone like you now whos a rep but is taking sides? Pretty biased! These guys may be friends of yours but they are no good. Let Fred fight his own battle. Your not helping matters either by keeping it going and bringing other people into it. People say that unions are corrupt and this makes the case for it. Defending him makes you look corrupt too.

[SOUPBEANS]

Level brother no disrespect but your a international rep and your not in the plant. Since you want facts heres some. Theres a lot of us that are pretty pissed off about this deal. There had to be some kind of deal cut with the company and the union because the company don't do nothing for free and we're gonna be the ones paying for it. Everyone at OHAP pretty much knows that this asshole stole money from people getting packages if they were taking it voluntary or because they got fired. Then he goes and steals checks from people who retired. What kind of person does this? Why is it still a issue? Because his brother is our standards rep and our standards are fubar and its got a lot of us wondering if this was also part of the deal. He steals and gets caught and then gets a nice chunk of change and is working at another UAW plant and is going to run for chairman there? And this is stuff that Fred is saying! He doesn't hide it! Its almost like he's proud of it. He was telling some of us that he was actually trying to get his job at our plant back. The facts are that this is bullshit. I just found out that this stuff is public record now so I'm going to find that public record and see the facts myself. Trying to throw other people under the bus like you did is just wrong. How do we trust someone like you now whos a rep but is taking sides? Pretty biased! These guys may be friends of yours but they are no good. Let Fred fight his own battle. Your not helping matters either by keeping it going and bringing other people into it. People say that unions are corrupt and this makes the case for it. Defending him makes you look corrupt too.

 

 

look

since we are on a civil manner and acting like good union brothers and sisters.if fred did what he did as you say?where is the charges and jail time? but you know what ? it troubles me and alot of other uaw members in alot of other plants.that this is the only person / fred.that you want to go after.how about rowes brother a thief. a felon.this guy is still getting a paycheck from ford.hes gone way past any $10.000 point and isnt even working.wtf. why is this guy being exclusive to others? this whole thing seems racial.you avoid the questions about don rowe.all questions.but when another brother or sister thats not white is involved with the same situation.you attack them.

its obvious in our plant the racial issues are starting to unfold with the new political movement.and this is a prime example.hey yall on the line i told you how these people are.

 

soupbeans

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[WRH]

look

since we are on a civil manner and acting like good union brothers and sisters.if fred did what he did as you say?where is the charges and jail time? but you know what ? it troubles me and alot of other uaw members in alot of other plants.that this is the only person / fred.that you want to go after.how about rowes brother a thief. a felon.this guy is still getting a paycheck from ford.hes gone way past any $10.000 point and isnt even working.wtf. why is this guy being exclusive to others? this whole thing seems racial.you avoid the questions about don rowe.all questions.but when another brother or sister thats not white is involved with the same situation.you attack them.

its obvious in our plant the racial issues are starting to unfold with the new political movement.and this is a prime example.hey yall on the line i told you how these people are.

 

soupbeans

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Don Rowe isn't at OHAP. I don't know where he is. But I don't think this is racial. How? If you stole something then you stole something. Charges and jail time? That's what a lot of us want to know. If its public record then we can see what happened. It isn't racial. I never heard of anybody else stealing money from their own union people. We all heard of people stealling from the company and getting fired. But stealing from your own people? the race card is stupid and a joke. Whats next? He's gonna find Jesus?

[Pioneer]

If money was stolen from the Local, wouldn't the local be responsible for pressing charges? Why would the local leadership let this go?

[SOUPBEANS]

If money was stolen from the Local, wouldn't the local be responsible for pressing charges? Why would the local leadership let this go?

 

 

Thats why no one will answer my question.rowe stole from the local membership.pena stole from the local membership.they were both uaw reps . both public known. so why is one / rowe given a sit at home and get paid package. and pena given the heres your money and get out package.rowe keeps getting paid and pena has the one set deal.this whole thing has been bullshit from the get go.they should have both been fired or reinstated. who cut the damn hog for rowe.sit at home and get paid cause nobody wants your thieve ass in there plant.and pena who did the same thieve act you get a package and thats all you get. THIS WHOLE THING IS BULLSHIT.YOU MOTHER FUCKERS KNOW IT.THE ROWE AND DONNOVON BUNCH KNOW THIS AND THEY WILL GET DON ROWE BACK IN ARE PLANT AT OUR EXPENSE.AND DON ROWE HASNT HIT A LICK FOR HOW LONG.AND GOT PAID FOR STEALING TO BOOT. ARE YOU FUCKING BLIND? FIRE THIS MOTHERFUCKER AND LETS GO ON.SAVE ALL OUR PLANTS FROM THIS HEARTACHE AND ASS RASH .

 

SOUPBEANS

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[WRH]

Thats why no one will answer my question.rowe stole from the local membership.pena stole from the local membership.they were both uaw reps . both public known. so why is one / rowe given a sit at home and get paid package. and pena given the heres your money and get out package.rowe keeps getting paid and pena has the one set deal.this whole thing has been bullshit from the get go.they should have both been fired or reinstated. who cut the damn hog for rowe.sit at home and get paid cause nobody wants your thieve ass in there plant.and pena who did the same thieve act you get a package and thats all you get. THIS WHOLE THING IS BULLSHIT.YOU MOTHER FUCKERS KNOW IT.THE ROWE AND DONNOVON BUNCH KNOW THIS AND THEY WILL GET DON ROWE BACK IN ARE PLANT AT OUR EXPENSE.AND DON ROWE HASNT HIT A LICK FOR HOW LONG.AND GOT PAID FOR STEALING TO BOOT. ARE YOU FUCKING BLIND? FIRE THIS MOTHERFUCKER AND LETS GO ON.SAVE ALL OUR PLANTS FROM THIS HEARTACHE AND ASS RASH .

 

SOUPBEANS

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Brother I think you got it wrong. Don Rowe doesn't work at Avon and he didn't steal anything from the membership. What I was told was he doubledipped or something but paid it back. Pena actually stole checks from hourly people getting a package. You can go to the justice center clerk of courts and look at the file. They even had a copy of one of the checks Pena signed. I didn't know they brought in some writing expert but they did. I don't know if you can get copies of it but I wanted to read it myself and it was there. He admitted it to. Don Rowe and Fred Pena are different cases. Its all there. Its some pretty freaky s**t.

[kenp77]

OK

 

So you have a problem with a past union official at your location and you are compelled to post this on a public web site with potential customers going through these threads and they come across this junior high garbage. This stuff makes us look like dysfunctional union members. We don’t need this negativity on a public web site. We are gaining market share month after month. Stuff like this is really unnecessary.

 

Brilliant!!!!!

 

If you are so interested in getting this info out to members why don’t you leaflet your plant and sign your name as the accusing party.

 

Im done here.........

U are so right people read this kind of bad publicity for the UAW then go buy a toyo or kia!!!

[wildosvt]

U are so right people read this kind of bad publicity for the UAW then go buy a toyo or kia!!!

 

 

Humans are humans, Just look at the deep pile of shit Toyota is still in. People are people, They are crooks, Selfish, Nasty etc. No walk of life is immune to it.

[dividedautoworkers]

Thats why no one will answer my question.rowe stole from the local membership.pena stole from the local membership.they were both uaw reps . both public known. so why is one / rowe given a sit at home and get paid package. and pena given the heres your money and get out package.rowe keeps getting paid and pena has the one set deal.this whole thing has been bullshit from the get go.they should have both been fired or reinstated. who cut the damn hog for rowe.sit at home and get paid cause nobody wants your thieve ass in there plant.and pena who did the same thieve act you get a package and thats all you get. THIS WHOLE THING IS BULLSHIT.YOU MOTHER FUCKERS KNOW IT.THE ROWE AND DONNOVON BUNCH KNOW THIS AND THEY WILL GET DON ROWE BACK IN ARE PLANT AT OUR EXPENSE.AND DON ROWE HASNT HIT A LICK FOR HOW LONG.AND GOT PAID FOR STEALING TO BOOT. ARE YOU FUCKING BLIND? FIRE THIS MOTHERFUCKER AND LETS GO ON.SAVE ALL OUR PLANTS FROM THIS HEARTACHE AND ASS RASH .

 

SOUPBEANS

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Where is D.Rowe?

Wasn't he at Sandusky? Where is he now?

Whaddya think T.Rowe is gonna do? Bring him here and give him a appointed job? :rolleyes:

T.Rowes gotta be better than Nick G. No one could be worse.

Nick G. is toast and needs to start packing his office.

I heard D.Rowes taking a buyout so you 're lying about him coming here.

The count down is starting.

Tick tock tick tock.

[OldFordJim]

I have a relative that works at Livonia Trans and he told me about a year ago or longer that an hourly employee got caught stealing paychecks from the supervisors desk. I don't remember if he was caught in the act or after the fact and it may have been more than once. But they caught him and fired him. And I don't know if there were charges filed with Livonia police or not but, just a few months ago, he was reinstated and got some gravy job somewhere in the plant.

[SOUPBEANS]

I have a relative that works at Livonia Trans and he told me about a year ago or longer that an hourly employee got caught stealing paychecks from the supervisors desk. I don't remember if he was caught in the act or after the fact and it may have been more than once. But they caught him and fired him. And I don't know if there were charges filed with Livonia police or not but, just a few months ago, he was reinstated and got some gravy job somewhere in the plant.

 

Oldfordjim let me tell you.he should have been fired and so should have don rowe for good.but its people like these S.O.BS that get off with no penalties and have it made.but at least the guy at livonia had to come back to the plant and work.with don rowes deal he gets to sit at home and get paid like hes sitting in a gen bank that no longer is.of course you will have people come on this thread and say rowe is takeing a package like the two fired donovons did.and fred pena is a no good s.o.b because he got a grievance settled.but realy you oldfordjim just proved my point.everyone but fred pena got reinstated. DONOVONS /HOWES I MEAN ROWES.

 

soupbeans

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[Virgil]

Oldfordjim let me tell you.he should have been fired and so should have don rowe for good.but its people like these S.O.BS that get off with no penalties and have it made.but at least the guy at livonia had to come back to the plant and work.with don rowes deal he gets to sit at home and get paid like hes sitting in a gen bank that no longer is.of course you will have people come on this thread and say rowe is takeing a package like the two fired donovons did.and fred pena is a no good s.o.b because he got a grievance settled.but realy you oldfordjim just proved my point.everyone but fred pena got reinstated. DONOVONS /HOWES I MEAN ROWES.

 

soupbeans

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We know what Pena did to the membership but what did Rowe do? What plant was he at? What felony did he do?

[longball]

We know what Pena did to the membership but what did Rowe do? What plant was he at? What felony did he do?

The way the story goes is....Don was scheduled to his union rep. job during the holiday period...reported his hours as if he was in the shop....when he was seen in Las Vegas by someone from personnel....he was offered a chance to change his hours and refused...he was then "fired". I call this a story because I wasn't in Vegas or in the shop during the holiday....but that is how it was told to me....I heard he went to Brookpark....but I don't know if that is true or not.