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#1 OFFLINE   Roadrunner

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Posted 02 November 2007 - 10:56 AM

I was looking at
http://www.ford.com....v...4&c=DFYPage

and I thought, "that looks a lot different than the Thai Ranger that's been kicked around here"

What's going on? Because that International Ranger sold in Oz could make for an alright compact truck here. It happens to be built by Mazda, mind you.
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Posted 02 November 2007 - 10:57 AM

Well, it's quite likely that the next generation of the truck you were looking at WILL be our new Ranger. FoA is leading development on the new Ranger (instead of Mazda) with plans to use the design internationally. It would work very well in NA I believe.
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Posted 02 November 2007 - 11:00 AM

that is the Thai ranger

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Posted 02 November 2007 - 11:18 AM

Are we going to a one Ranger world in the near future instead of our current three?

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Posted 02 November 2007 - 11:26 AM

Are we going to a one Ranger world in the near future instead of our current three?


At best, we'll go to one, but for the near term it looks like the Thai variant may stick around beyond the shelf life of the NA Ranger.
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Posted 02 November 2007 - 11:39 AM

what three? Thai, US and South Ameircan?

In reality they are all on the same frame just the bodies are different. We are to get united onto a new AU built T6 platform by 2011.

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Posted 02 November 2007 - 12:40 PM

I was looking at
http://www.ford.com....v...4&c=DFYPage


Were you looking at the truck, or the guy in the towel? :shades:

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Posted 02 November 2007 - 01:18 PM

Were you looking at the truck, or the guy in the towel? :shades:


The guy in the towel weirds me out.
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Posted 02 November 2007 - 01:22 PM

that is the Thai ranger


The Thai Ranger I saw was much less truck-like. Perhaps they redid it.

Why yes they did: http://www.leftlanen...n-thailand.html

I was thinking of the cheaper-looking 2002 Ranger:
http://www.thaicarpo...oto/0001612.jpg
http://gam.boo.jp/bl...r_2002_02_m.jpg
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Posted 02 November 2007 - 01:51 PM

The Thai Ranger I saw was much less truck-like. Perhaps they redid it.

Why yes they did: http://www.leftlanen...n-thailand.html

I was thinking of the cheaper-looking 2002 Ranger:
http://www.thaicarpo...oto/0001612.jpg
http://gam.boo.jp/bl...r_2002_02_m.jpg

ah yes .. the Thai Ranger was released about a year and some ago and is not the "global" ranger - everywhere but Americas. However it is still the same size and frame as our Ranger - just a new body.

Australia is working on a ground up new global truck we are to get as well .. supposedly.

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Posted 02 November 2007 - 02:04 PM

Were you looking at the truck, or the guy in the towel? :shades:


What the hell??? What is the point of that guy? I mean it turns me off from the truck.... :finger:
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Posted 02 November 2007 - 02:11 PM

I was looking at
http://www.ford.com....v...4&c=DFYPage

and I thought, "that looks a lot different than the Thai Ranger that's been kicked around here"

What's going on? Because that International Ranger sold in Oz could make for an alright compact truck here. It happens to be built by Mazda, mind you.


They look the same to me.

http://www.leftlanen...n-thailand.html

There's a high chance the US will get the upcoming new Ranger from SA, which is also based on the new one.
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A little slow are we? I couldn't care less about being banned, I'm even dissapointed about the lack of veredict right now.

Nick is free to answer whatever he wants to the higher ups. Let me be perfectly clear about this: I don't feel scared or threatened at all, I've been LAUGHING at RJ ever since he lost it over this, it's always the same thing and shows how just fragile his little word is. The perfect example of someone who likes to dish it out (mhlm, diesels, Lutz, etc.), but can't take anything himself.

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Posted 02 November 2007 - 02:25 PM

They sell that Ranger here, if you ask me. Bring back the American Ranger. It's much much better.
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Posted 02 November 2007 - 02:36 PM

The guy in the towel weirds me out.

Relax, Andrew Symonds is a top Aussie cricketer.
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Posted 02 November 2007 - 03:24 PM

The guy in the towel weirds me out.


Good to hear. I was worried for a sec. :)

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Posted 02 November 2007 - 03:35 PM

Good to hear. I was worried for a sec. :)

Can't have you suing Ford Australia for mental anguish - you'd probably win!

Insiders are hinting T6 Truck variant looks great
and yeah , I know it sounds like another "Mullally eyes water" comment.
You just have to trust that things are progressing and a good Ranger is key to Ford Globally.
They're predicting near 400,000 sales globally when up and running.

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Posted 02 November 2007 - 03:41 PM

Good to hear. I was worried for a sec. :)

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Posted 02 November 2007 - 05:05 PM

The "new" Thai Ranger is just a heavily facelifted old Ranger .. both are called J97s the new one is J97U and the old is J97P or M
In any case, as Igor stated, the next Ranger will bow in 2010 as a 2011 model and will be built confirmed so far at AutoAlliance Thailand and Pacheco Argentina.

Powertrains need to be improved, both diesel and gas. I believe that only a 2.5L DOHC Mazda gas engine is planned, I haven't heard anything regarding V6s. In South Africa, it is built as CKD with the cologne 4.0L

Next year, the J97 is slated for a minor face lift, as it hasn't been well received, especially in the tough Thai market.

I have had experience with NA Rangers, Argentinean Rangers and Thai Rangers. The Thai ones, hold up the best. They are a lot simpler, and perhaps under powered, but build quality is amazing and they take a lot of abuse.

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Posted 02 November 2007 - 05:41 PM

If Ford wanted the current Ranger to sell in droves, it need/needed a diesel. Then advertise the ever loving shit out of it. The Ranger could tow 7,000 pounds with a small 3.0 liter diesel that puts out 200-220 HP and 350-375 pound feet of torque. I would buy one brand freaking new, tomorrow, if they made it.

And Ford would make money hand over fist because the Ranger has been the same for...what...15-20 years?
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Posted 02 November 2007 - 05:45 PM

If Ford wanted the current Ranger to sell in droves, it need/needed a diesel. Then advertise the ever loving shit out of it. The Ranger could tow 7,000 pounds with a small 3.0 liter diesel that puts out 200-220 HP and 350-375 pound feet of torque. I would buy one brand freaking new, tomorrow, if they made it.

And Ford would make money hand over fist because the Ranger has been the same for...what...15-20 years?

Ford has just hat kind of engine coming - a 3.0l V6 Diesel.

Pray to whoever you pray to that we will get it.

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